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Date: 9/18/2011 2:19pm Whois Name: Dustystar502 (331)
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Reading these reviews reminds me of an old ride at an amusement park that no one want to ride anymore or Lots-O'-Huggin' Bear from Toy Story 3 a toy that no one wants to play with anymore.
Attitude 0.5

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Date: 8/17/2011 10:38am Whois Name: bruno (474)
Delete Subject: Peaches
Is Peaches still working at this place?

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Date: 7/15/2011 8:09pm Whois Name: zhevto (4)
Delete Subject: bad choice
was in the area last Friday night, decided to stop by and check the place out. My god! What a shithole! Looks like I am not the only one who thinks so, cause the place was dead! On Friday night! There were 5-7 girls, decent looking, nothing special, yet not too ugly. Some of the girls appeared to be a really good pole dancers. Bravo!
Spent there about 40 min, not worth coming back.

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Date: 3/4/2011 3:20pm Whois Name: milk Z-VIP Member (741)
Delete Subject: RTTR
Stop #2 on the valley shithole tour. No cover. Drinking a fat tire for $5. 5 girls here I think. Couple black girls and the rest are white rocker chicks. Doesn't seem to be lapdances here. Just table dances.

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Date: 6/14/2010 2:25pm Whois Name: pole_position (5)
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Just posting to chase the crickets back into hiding. Cheaper than bug spray. I was in the neighborhood for work so I cruised by here for a beer one afternoon last month and it was pretty dead. They did have some decent talent on stage but they weren't very friendly like the glory days.

Does anyone know what happened to Ann? Is she dancing somewhere else these days?

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Date: 5/22/2010 11:10am Whois Name: scheisthausen (44)
Delete Subject: It is quiet on this board!
What happened to the PL's on this board, no more posting bb79?

Like Vintage Industrial Strip the crickets have moved in, no posts, no specials, NO ?????

This club used to be a major player in the strip club circuit, now just the crickets chirping away, How Sad

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Date: 1/4/2010 4:50am Whois Name: bb79 (2)
Delete Subject: the club
I think the previous post is quite inaccurate. I've be in SG as well as CL and the talent at SG is far superior. There are some attractive,not quite SR quality, but better than most of the area clubs, and they are very personable. I've also stopped at CL and found the girls to be older and past their prime. The atmosphere here is good and the club seems to be going in the right direction. The girls are hot, the staff is cool, and the place is fun.
Club 3 Dancers 3 Attitude 3.5 Nasty Factor 1

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Date: 12/30/2009 1:40pm Whois Name: scheisthausen (37)
Delete Subject: Happy New Year
I want to wish the management a very Happy New Year!

If this club wouldn't of self imploded, all the dancers wouldn't of left and gone to the Classy Lady, which is much closer to my house as well LOTS and I mean LOTS of parking!!! Did I say Lots of Parking!!!

I have no doubt that the GM will rebuild the club, with all the new drinks and what ever he hires (from what I hear, if they can't get hired anywhere else they come to the Garden).

Lastly I heard that the GM thinks a certain former dancer is spending her time posting BS about the club - that is really funny, take it from me, she has much more important things to do than post here, she has moved on!!!

Wishing all the best for 2010 - Your Going to Need it!!!

P.S. The only really sad out come is Danielle, she has lost all her fave dancers, most of all, fave customers, she is a beautiful woman inside and out and I miss her smile!

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Date: 11/13/2009 10:08pm Whois Name: Fender (2)
Delete Subject: dark days at this place
Star Garden was know for Rock n Roll not RAp and hot women not unattractive. Management please do something with the bad attitude bartender and stop letting any girl hat walks through your doors work. Don't you see you have ruined a great place or are you that blind? One year ago today your girls were hot! The prettiest girl you have claims to be a playmate and she was never. She has a horrible attitude and only hangs on the dj???????

This is a suggestions change what your doing

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Date: 10/29/2009 11:36am Whois Name: tedbanke (New)
Delete Subject: Abusive to there girls
Monday evening I couldn't help to see the floor guy yelling at the bartender for not cleaning something in the bathroom. He proceeded to tell her she was useless, no one liked her around there. He also mentioned management gave her time off because she is a bad bartender. I don't come in there much but I do come in for her,since all the other beauty are gone. She is beautiful, smiles and has a wonderful laugh, serves a great cold beer.

If you want my opinion the girls are below average, the club use to be fun full of fun girls. I now know from reading these last few postings why the girls have left. I was able to see the treatment these girls endure from men first hand.
So, if anyone knows what happen to that beautiful bartender (She is asian and had a unique name) please post. She was told to leave by the floor guy so I'm assuming she wont return.
Club 2 Dancers 0 Attitude 0.5

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Date: 10/23/2009 7:46pm Whois Name: Rhino_Poop (77)
Delete Subject: Opps! Looks Like?
After reading the last 4 posts, looks like Poop Hit the FAN! It's sad because Star Garden was always a fun place to go, a few laughs and sexy dancers - NOW?????

Then again, thanks to all the info here, I know where to go to see my faves. for example:

tjm123 said below: The bartender seemed nice she had a little too many trashy tattoos for my liking. She did however tell me where classy lady was...Thank you for the information!!!

What a classic line, "She did however tell me where classy lady was". If memory serves me well this nice bartender used to work at the Classy! Now I buy a drink at the Classy just to make Daisy come over she's gorgeous AND NO TAT's!

Like many landmarks in the Valley some come to an end, looks like this place can be added to the list - SAD

Just Dropin My Load
Rhino Poop

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Date: 10/23/2009 11:16am Whois Name: tjm123 (3)
Delete Subject: FYI
If any of you consider coming here, I suggest you steer clear. The whole experience is a disappointment. I was hanging out at Pats bar with a few x regulars of Star Garden last night and Vivian, they shared how they were treated here by a manger's and doorman. Now it all makes sense why the club has been so bad. All I want to say is...hahahahahahahahahaha...I guess you didn't need any of our business or the beautiful girls, since you pushed them all out.
Club 2 Dancers 0.5 Attitude 0.5 Nasty Factor 1.5

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Date: 10/22/2009 12:26pm Whois Name: tjm123 (New)
Delete Subject: Thank you for the heads up
Despite all the rumors I had to stop by to see the Garden myself. To my disappointment the rumors are true. All the beautiful girls are gone. This place has downgraded there standards of quality in all areas. The girls seem extremely desperate, for money or rides home. I asked the doorman, who had zero people skills, what happen to all the girls that were once there. He seemed happy to tell me they were all at another club called Classy Lady. He had an accent of some sort. So that maybe this new owner everyone has warned me about, treating people poorly. The bartender seemed nice she had a little too many trashy tattoos for my liking. She did however tell me where classy lady was...Thank you for the information.
To my surprise this place was jumpin off! The girls were hot and all having a great time. The owner came up to me and actually seemed to care if I liked his club. So, avoid the Star Garden and take your business to the Classy Lady on Roscoe and Sepevelda. The beer is cheap and the place is busy, full of classy hot woman. You don't feel pressured by anyone, to tip, drink or judged by the security. You are just forced into a great mood.
Club 0.5 Dancers 0.5 Attitude 0

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Date: 10/15/2009 5:42pm Whois Name: pole_position (New)
Delete Subject: Fender/Jessica and Austin
Yeah guys, the friendly neighborhood bar vibe is long gone, along with most of the better dancers and most of the customers the last time I wandered by there a few months back.

I saw both Jessica and Austin working the day shift at The Classy Lady earlier this week. There were a few other SG vets there that I don't know by name.

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Date: 10/14/2009 11:44am Whois Name: Fender (New)
Delete Subject: What happen
WOW...What happen to the friendly Star Garden I have been going to for years. From the door guy, to the rude unattractive bartender and the quality of dancer's have really changed for the worse. This place was known for a good time, great people and there all gone. The management have made a few changes in the place, the establishment itself looks good but, the reason I went there for so many years was for the neighborhood bar feeling, great fun environment and classy hot girls. Where did they go? Erica, Gia, Austin, Precious, Vivian, Lola, my fav for years Jessica, she always had such a great attitude and all the others. The only good thing is that great long haired Dj they have that keeps the place rockin, that alone won't make me return.
Club 2.5 Dancers 1 Attitude 1

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Date: 10/8/2009 3:08pm Whois Name: Rhino_Poop (76)
Delete Subject: WTF is going on at this club?
Knock, Knock - Who's There? Seems like no one - the Club was CLOSED!

Yeah! Yeah! I know what happened, and it nothing to do with the new management, but still posting something would of been nice, since you want to post "Thank You" to Zbone PL's...

Now I get wind that you don't want to bring some of our faves back, instead going with young new dancers, that some have ZERO and I mean ZERO Personalities! Common management, remember who got this club thru the hard times and thru the transition period?

If you want to change something, how about that darling Bartender with the real cheerful attitude covered in INK! Her personality goes on which side of the bed she gets up on!

This club was fun, the parking stinks, the beer prices cool and COLD, DJ was Rocking, why change the formula???

Rhino Poop
Just Dropin My Load
Club 2.5 Dancers 3 Attitude 2.5 Nasty Factor 1.5

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Date: 9/4/2009 5:55pm Whois Name: stargarden (7)
Delete Subject: Thanks
To Zboners from Star Garden:
I know this isn't the proper place for a thank you but wanted to just say thanks to you all for the cool, kind words. Over the pass 6 months (since April 2009), the new management has done a lot to improve the experience, the look and the energy of SG. I hope you all continue to give us a try as we are still improving the bar menu, the staff, the quality/variety of dancers and the appearance. Keep posting your comments, we definitely read them!

-SG Management
(when you come in ask for the manager Hans. We wanna get to know our Zbone fans)

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Date: 8/26/2009 12:31pm Whois Name: CARLOS969 (11)
Delete Subject: Tegan
Last nite met an angel named tegan,didnt get to say much to her she was busy with some douche she gave him a dance or so, i left. word of advice to tegan, work the room, dont just stay with one guy the whole nite this isnt your normal strip joint. Talyor was there yummmmmmmy

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Date: 5/24/2009 7:36pm Whois Name: Spawn (552)
Delete Subject: What Do You Mean "What Happened"???
Club is doing Fine! Was there Friday afternoon 9 GURLS! Yeah there are a few changes, what to expect when you have new management!!!

I'm not happy anymore than the girls that the benches and chairs were taken away from the smoking patio!!! It's kind of nice to get some fresh air after that smoke machine keeps being turned on, now WE have to stand outside!

Another bummer is that management has decided MORE GIRLS, which on one hand is nice BUTT! on the other hand it takes for ever for your fave to get up on stage! So I go thru two rotations and it's adios for me!
Club 3 Dancers 3.5 Attitude 2 Nasty Factor 2

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Date: 5/21/2009 11:18pm Whois Name: charlie_Gunn (New)
Delete Subject: what happen to THE STARGARDEN?
Club 3 Dancers 3 Attitude 2.5

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Date: 4/23/2009 12:02pm Whois Name: DanceOnMe (New)
Delete Subject: Yeah!
They got some hot ass girls here!!! Lola is HOT!! The bartender is hot as hell too. The daytime girls are as hot at the night girls. For a little hole in the wall bar, this place has some smokin hot girls. I like Precious and Erica too.
Club 3.5 Dancers 3.5 Attitude 4 Nasty Factor 3

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Date: 4/17/2009 5:47pm Whois Name: Spawn (544)
Delete Subject: Lola's Birthday Party with 7 more Babes!
Lola! Happy Burfday! I've known you at least 14 - 15 years, you didn't get older just better!

YIKES! 8 Dancers! $3.- Drink Specials! Food! Popcorn, Pretzels, M&M's, Cupcakes and did I say 8 Babes! And One off the wall DJ!~

In Da House was Lola, Jessica, Precious, Vivian, Heather, Austin, Erica, Cherry and behind the bar the ever so gorgeous Danielle !

The house was Rockin, the place was getting full and those $3.- Drink Specials were starting to take their toll !

To everyone that decorated the place - APPLAUSE!!!!

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Date: 4/3/2009 8:21pm Whois Name: Reyes (New)
Delete Subject: Natasha,Erika & Chantel
I used to go to the garden about six years ago. I just got back from serving my term in Iraq & was thinking of getting together with some old friends & heading over to the garden for old time sake. Does anyone know if Natasha a tall super hot playboy model looking girl is still dancing there or super hot babe Erika can't forget hottie Chantel these girls were always great to hang with are any of them still there?

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Date: 3/19/2009 9:32pm Whois Name: Spawn (537)
Delete Subject: New Talent
Looks like I'm the only guy that posts in here. I think many of the PL's that go to this club, have no idea that this board even exists...

As many of you don't know, Thirsty's was sold over the weekend, so most of the dancers have moved on to other clubs!

Well I got lucky and my fave Nelia came here to StarGardens, WHY? She just got tired of all the game playing at a NUDE club!!! I saw her today and she couldn't be happier AND from what I hear from the house girls, they're happy with her too. Also a Babe from DVCOI works here now, smokin hot brunette with a beautiful smile!!!

Also had Jessica my other fave, Precious, Vivian, and behind the bar Amea a gorgeous Korean babe!!! It might a small neighborhood club, No hassle, $3.- dancers or everyone's taste! With this economy it works for me!
Club 3 Dancers 3.5 Attitude 2 Nasty Factor 3

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Date: 2/21/2009 5:37pm Whois Name: Spawn (534)
Delete Subject: Miss The line up
Went in this afternoon and for the second Saturday in a row the line up was - YAWN is it time to wake up yet????

What happened to the regular babes on Saturday afternoons? No Anne, No Porche, No Jessica (I know why), No Erica!!!

Thank God Sy was there the bartender, she is always fun to talk to.
Had 1 drink and said ADIOS Muchachas!
Club 3 Dancers 2.5 Attitude 2 Nasty Factor 1

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Date: 2/11/2009 9:20pm Whois Name: John_Cena (155)
Delete Subject: Spooky
Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee

1 Kings 22:23

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Date: 2/11/2009 8:05pm Whois Name: Spooky (339)
Delete Subject: Rhino_Poop
Hey Rhino,

You forgot to sign out & drop your load...

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Date: 2/11/2009 6:07pm Whois Name: Rhino_Poop (58)
Delete Subject: Knock, Knock - Whose There - Come On In!
Yep! Their all their and Good to Go!
Many of the Dancers are up for the Show!

There's No more excuses, even a cute butt!
All's been taken care of and No More Shut!

Precious, Vivian, Porcha, Erica and Jessica made the afternoon fun!
Club 3 Dancers 3.5 Attitude 2 Nasty Factor 3

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Date: 1/29/2009 7:33pm Whois Name: Rhino_Poop (54)
Delete Subject: Knock, Knock - Whose There - SILENCE
Say it Aint So - PLease Say it Aint So!
Where did all the dancers GO?

We hear excuses and even a but!
The bottom line - The Club is SHUT!


Just Dropin My Load
Rhino Poop
Club 3 Dancers 3.5 Attitude 2 Nasty Factor 2

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Date: 11/18/2008 5:15pm Whois Name: Sean Z-VIP Member (274)
Delete Subject: Pornstars at SG
While in North Hollywood, I decided to head in and check out the club. The outside is pretty run down looking but, the inside seems much cleaner. When I entered, the bouncer asked for a $5 cover.

The lap area was small with only 3 or 4 booths to the right of the entrance, near the bar. The stage was also small but, the dancers seemed to move well on it. The bartender for the night was a woman with a bad attitude and kept trying to push drinks on me all night. I stayed away from the bar as often as possible.

I was surprised to run into two "porn stars" while there. Victoria Norton, a tattooed fetish porn performer and Sophia Mounds, a very busty MILF porn girl.

Victoria Norton is a pretty entertaining woman to speak with and isn't shy about sharing her opinions. She kept it light hearted and fun but, her breath was heavy with "smokers breath".

Sophia Mounds on the other hand was ranting and raving incoherently quite often. Plus she is all about the hard sell for dances.

Other then Sophia getting on my nerves quickly, everyone else seemed quite laid back. Not many guys were tipping the stage so, I did my part to give a few bucks out.

The house girls I saw working for the night were Isis, Madison, Ann and Vivian. Madison is a blond with a decent body and gives a decent standard lap dance with minimal touching.

Overall the club is a nice dive bar to hang out in but, that needs exterior remodeling badly to attract customers.

I'll probably be back there for time to time to hang out or watch the stage show.

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Date: 8/21/2008 2:47am Whois Name: E-nuts (32)
Delete Subject: Trip Report Wed 8-20
i decided to grace this place with my presence this lovely evening/morning after a few brewskis with a bud. $10 pitcher of beer seemed like the best deal, although the Bud on tap (i usually drink higher quality beer, but when in rome!) tasted more like Nasty Light or Keystone Light. Lame! lotta white folk representing here. looks like a dive bar with tits. decent looking skanky women shaking there thing her. i had come her before when they were doing some remodeling (it was closed) although nothing inside remotely looked new. there were a few poor man stile booths near the front entrance for laps. if you like dives, this place would be heaven. looks like many regulars hang here. i was surprised with so many whiteys, b/c this area is mosty Salvatrucha/latino. but there were none in sight. good place to grab a brewski. no real action here. by the looks of some of the chicks, you could probably score some action outside. atm is broke. good beer on tap is empty. $6 domestic bottles, $7 import bottles.
Club 1.5 Dancers 2.5 Attitude 2.5 Nasty Factor 1

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Date: 3/13/2008 11:40am Whois Name: The_Word (21)
Delete Subject: Old Crew
Hey Spawn,

Hope all is well with you. I'm glad that you dropped in and saw "Ann" and found others. I haven't been there in YEARS. Truth be told, I've only been there twice in my life. Last time to visit with Jessica over a beer many, many moons ago. Well, I've been out of the loop but intel seems to drift my every now and then. All my best to anyone who remembers me. Lates.

P.S. Cheyenne? Wow, that does take me back.

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Date: 3/12/2008 12:03am Whois Name: Spawn (442)
Delete Subject: Elisabeth
The_Word, glad to see your still around! Based on your intel, I made a surprise visit to the Newly Owned StarGarden, and guess who I found - - Elisabeth known as Ann in the club.

She l@@ks great! Feels great to after all those Huggs she gave me. Also there is Jessica & Trinity (You know her as Cheyene) and few other surprises.

Ann ala Elisabeth is working Wed, Thur & Sat Days 12-8. Why is she not working Fri - It's her Birthday!

You asked, I replied! I will most likely be there Saturday afternoonish.

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Date: 2/28/2008 11:37pm Whois Name: The_Word (19)
Delete Subject: Is it true?
Is it true that Elisabeth, formerly of Bob's many moons ago, is now dancing here at Star Garden? If so, what is her schedule?

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Date: 10/24/2007 10:52pm Whois Name: AConnoisseur (1)
Delete Subject: Nothing But Scanky Fat Chicks! STAY AWAY!!!
I went to the Star Garden today. I hadn't been there in a couple of years, so I was looking forward to seeing some Hot Rock-n-Roll Strippers. To my dismay the club was filled with Scanky Fat Chicks!!!!
Yes.... it's True!!! Nooooooooo!!!!!
That stripper Jessica that people posted about was there...
She is a Fat Chick with a badly Bleached Hair! I wanted to give her a Buck to keep it on. Ugly Body, Ugly Face. I guess she had to much Cake on her B-Day.
All the girls there looked like they fell out of the Ugly Tree, hit every Branch
on the way down, and landed in a pile of Meth.
Unfortunately, the quality of the Star Garden is way below Par.
Tore Up Faces, Bruised Legs, Bad Hair, 90's Clothes... = LIFERS.
If you guy's want to party like ROCK STARS, Clubs in Hollywood are your best bet. Slinky Hotties are everywhere.
Club 0.5 Dancers 0.5 Attitude 0.5 Nasty Factor 0.5

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Date: 8/17/2007 8:32pm Whois Name: Spawn (417)
Delete Subject: Jessica
Well Boys, Girls and yes gerbles it was a fun Birthday party for Jessica! Another year younger and she looked Hot! The Club was jumpin with old friends arriving.

The sweetheart bartender "Danielle" had balloons everywhere! Thanks for a fun time. Trinity was working the stage as well as Porche, Yum Yum Erica and a few others.

Club 3 Dancers 4 Attitude 3 Nasty Factor 3.5

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Date: 3/30/2007 12:22am Whois Name: Spawn (389)
Delete Subject: Jessica
Jessica is Hot! That's all you can up with???
Give Her all yer

Well here's a news flash!
Jessica is the Blue Flame of My Bunzin Burner....Baby!
She's the Glow that sends the Space Shuttle into Space!
She's the heat that makes my oil boil to POP that kernal of Corn!

Most importantly, she's my friend , and that's Hot enough for me!

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Date: 3/22/2007 6:16pm Whois Name: Mittenzzz (New)
Delete Subject: heyo!!!!!
Jessica is HOT!!!!!

Give her all yer money!!!!!

We need some customers so bring yourself.

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Date: 12/29/2006 7:19pm Whois Name: foxfire33 (55)
Delete Subject: jessica
jessica, do you have a contact email? I know you from the day s of bobs.....hope you have a great new year!


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Date: 12/23/2006 1:14pm Whois Name: Spawn (376)
Delete Subject: Holiday Wishes
To Everyone at Star Gardens a:

Very Mery Christmas,
Happy Hanukkah,
Happy Kwanza,
Feliz Navidad,

And to All a Good Night!

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Date: 12/2/2006 12:10am Whois Name: Spawn (369)
Delete Subject: Good-Bye Randy
For those who don't know, today was the last day for one of the most talented, gifted DJ's at Star Garden! Randy, you will be truely missed.

Your selection of music, your interaction with the dancers as well as the PL's just makes it a fun experience to come to SG on Thursday's and Fridays for me!

Good Luck in Texas! I hope your replacement will be at least 1/2 as good as you! I know many of the dancers won't have a dry eye by the last Good-Bye!

As Luck would have it, we can have a small impromptu farewell party at HARPER's Sports Bar & Grill (Tampa & Parthenia) tomorrow (Sat.) at 5:30pm! A Fave of a bartender "Danielle" will be playing with her band HeartBrigade (Tribute Band to Heart) at Harper's in conjunction to the "Toys for Tot's" party! So we hope to see you there, say Good-Bye to Randy, bring a toy and listen to HeartBrigade!!!! There will also be at 9PM an AC/DC tribute band with Star Garden's Shannon called "ThundHerStruck" an all Girl AC/DC Band!

Adios Amigo!

P.S. Randy's sister is Smokin HOT!

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Date: 11/9/2006 1:39pm Whois Name: jessica1 (6)
Delete Subject: Dave666....
Dave666, Was that post meant for me or someone else? Was a little confused on your post.

-Jessica (A Star Garden Dancer)

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Date: 11/9/2006 5:32am Whois Name: davey666 (New)
Delete Subject: warning --- Will Robinsons -- warning!!!
Yeeeeaaahh all you pathetic out of work (or soon to be out of work) contractors and stage-hands and migrant workers, etc., etc. that hang out at SG -- keep it up and I'll show ya a "DOOM CLOUD THAT LOOMS OVER THE CLUB" as some whiny bastard griped about in his post below -- THAT YOU WON't F***ING BELIEVE!!!!
Attitude 4 Nasty Factor 4

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Date: 11/4/2006 5:36pm Whois Name: jessica1 (5)
Delete Subject: Same old crappy posts???Come on people!
Wow I've noticed that some people just can't get off those same touchy subjects from almost a year ago!!What's wrong with some of you guys...GET A LIFE!!!!Isn't there anyone out there who can be postitive anymore? For the person who is saying stuff about the girls not making enough money to support themselves...I do just fine over there so don't talk about things that you have no clue about.And dude you're still complaining about how loud the music is? Maybe you should just get your ears removed, that will solve the problem, or just don't come in as i've said 20,000 times!

Hugs & Kisses to all my fans & supporters.THANKS!

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Date: 9/28/2006 10:51pm Whois Name: Spawn (354)
Delete Subject: My Name is Earl invades Star Garden
For those of you who missed it, Star Garden, Jessica & Denver all ended up on "My Name is Earl" tonight 8pm!

Burt Reynolds was the owner of get this "Club Chubby", boy did NBC fix that club up, it looked really nice! If I remember correctly, both Burt and Earl stuck their noses right between Denver's !!!!!

Jessica & Denver....I see a SAG card in the horizon!!!!!!!!!
Club 3 Dancers 4 Attitude 3 Nasty Factor 2

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Date: 9/4/2006 1:07am Whois Name: sc (1)
Delete Subject: Hope
I haven't been in here for a while, does anyone remember a dancer named Hope? She had kind of a longish face. Whatever happened to her?

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Date: 8/8/2006 12:21pm Whois Name: Rhino_Poop (New)
Delete Subject: The Definition of "COOL"
To the Management of Star Garden!

It's "Cool" to come to the club and hang out!
It's "Cool" to tip the beautiful dancers!
It's "Cool" to come and hang with the bartender
It's "Cool" to come and hang with my friends

What is NOT "COOL" is !!!!!

To Help You out is the definition from Webster's Dictionary:


Main Entry: re·frig·er·ate
Pronunciation: ri-'fri-j&-"rAt
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -at·ed; -at·ing
Etymology: Latin refrigeratus, past participle of refrigerare, from re- + frigerare to cool, from frigor-, frigus cold -- more at FRIGID
: to make or keep cold or cool;
specifically : to freeze or chill (BEER) for "Happy Customers"
- re·frig·er·a·tion /-"fri-j&-'rA-sh&n/ noun

Please! Give us a break! I like the club, I like the DJ, and I like the dancers!

Club 2.5 Dancers 3.5 Attitude 3 Nasty Factor 3

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Date: 7/21/2006 9:27pm Whois Name: Spawn (335)
Delete Subject: Musical Chairs
Well Boys, Girls & Gerbles for a Friday afternoon 4PM it was PACKED! It was so packed that guys were actually forced to sit on the stage railing seats, because there weren't anymore seats! Seats were in Hi Demand!

The Friday line up:
Stevie, Ariel, Trinity, Jessica and Mason plus one more! With the ever beautiful Danielle behind the bar !

Had a Great time for a Friday afternoon!

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Date: 6/30/2006 2:47am Whois Name: AlfonsoVanWorden (40)
Delete Subject: Where are they now?
Paige dances regularly at Jumbo's in Hollywood at night.

Justine doesn't dance that much at Stargarden these days. She dances at a bikini club in Oxnard.


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Date: 6/26/2006 10:24am Whois Name: FAHQRudy (2)
Delete Subject: Justine
Maybe I've got bad timing, but when does Justine dance? She's so damned talented with all those Cirque du Soleil moves. I always tip her a lot for her performance (which is really what it is), but I never know when she's in. Does anyone know if she's got a regular time slot? And what about Paige? Is she still around? I haven't seen wither of these ladies in quite a while. (Though I admit my attendance is irregular at best.)

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Date: 6/17/2006 10:42pm Whois Name: AlfonsoVanWorden (38)
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<<In the immortal words of AlfonsoVanWorden...>>

I AM, however, glad to see that you realize how immortal my words are.


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Date: 6/16/2006 10:21am Whois Name: AlfonsoVanWorden (37)
Delete Subject: My response...
<<I'm just trying to point out that since your post 04/24/06 there has been only 3 posts,>>

Trust me, compared to how slow it's been on this Stargarden board, three posts in less than two months is a lot. Actually, more than ONE new post a year on this board is a lot.

<<So I guess all the moaning and groaning about loud music has been addressed.>>

That's why we all moaned and groaned. Glad you're enjoying the fruits of our labors. You're welcome.

Oh, and, by the way, I was there just last night and the music was just as loud and annoying as ever.



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Date: 6/12/2006 1:55pm Whois Name: Spawn (322)
Delete Subject: AlfonsoVanWorden Prediction
In the immortal words of AlfonsoVanWorden:

And I quote, "P.S. Isn't it more fun on this Stargarden Z-Bone board now that people are actually using it? Stay tuned for more excitement. Who knows, some of this attention-getting activity might even translate into business" unquote!

Yep Alfonoso, they're just posting away on the SG board!

Oh! the Music still LOUD? Every time I've been in there which is mostly afternoons, we can sit and talk anywhere in the club just fine! So I guess all the moaning and groaning about loud music has been addressed.

I'm just trying to point out that since your post 04/24/06 there has been only 3 posts, and the last one is singing the blues of the late 1980's...I just wanted to get a more positive outlook on this SG board.

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Date: 5/22/2006 2:43am Whois Name: Blueness (2)
Delete Subject: STAR GARDENS
I accidentally discovered Star Gardens in 1986 while smoking a 4th quarter joint with a friend at a Clippers game (yes, 20 years ago the Sports Arena really was so empty during Clipper losses that nobody cared or noticed!). Two guys a section away came over, introduced themselves, helped us finish our weed and then took us over the hill to Star Gardens for the first of many visits after the hapless Clippers were euthanized.

I recall SG in '86 as a cramped but friendly environment with an emphasis on loud rock 'n' roll and active, attractive and limber dancers. Reading the numerous posts here has made me nostalgic and curious about how time has changed SG. For me, it will always be the place we came to forget those sorry Clippers of the mid-to-late 1980's by pounding back pitchers and leering at 1/2-clad babes who always seemed pleased to see us arrive and sorry to see us go...Yeah, yeah, obviously I'm getting too fuckin' old!

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Date: 5/18/2006 12:05am Whois Name: the_gate (217)
Delete Subject: Re: Red Star Jedi's post
You definitely hit the garden on a good day!! (Eno? Really? 70's Eno??? Wow!!.)Expect to hear the likes of The Used / P.O.D etc blasted at excruciating volume through LA's worst sound system on your next visit!!!

I once saw Justine (tall rockabilly / suicide girl-looking chick) work the pole into submission to The Sex Pistols "God Save The Queen": - I swear I went home feeling I had witnessed a life-defining moment in popular culture!! ;-)

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Date: 5/17/2006 10:34am Whois Name: red_star_jedi (1)
Delete Subject: a fun relaxed time
Star Gardens isnt your high energy, hip hop, hustling strip club, i dont even think they do lap dances, and thats why i like it!

I came in around 5pm. First thing i notice is that the DJ is playing good rock music. Second thing there is a gorgeous punk rock bartender working there named athena. (think suicide girl meets olympian godess)3rd thing is that imported beer is cheap. 4 for a new castle, and i think it was less for bud and miller.

There were two dancers blonde all natural. one had the booty and the other had the boobies, they were very nice.

I complemented the DJ for playing a brian eno song, and what did he do? Played more biran eno, and then a bunch of 70's glam rock just for me! he also invited me to go see his band play and gave me a flyer. i thought "hey, what a friendly place"

I asked one of the blondes if the the bartender athena dances, and she said yes, and the blonde asked athena if she wanted to dance. 5 min later i was in my pop-culture/rock affected heaven, watching athena dance.

Overall i had a great time, im definatley bringing my friends its a great place to hang out look at cute girls and just chill. i love this place
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Date: 4/24/2006 12:06pm Whois Name: AlfonsoVanWorden (31)
Delete Subject: Frankly, Scarlet...
Hey Beeeyotch,

1. My comment about Maryjane was a question, not posted as fact. And who cares if she's pregant, anyway? She's gone. (What's the matter, sweetie? Are you a pregnant dancer, too, and are you afraid word will get around to your customers and hurt your money? Do yourself a favor. Tell your skinny-ass, rock n' roll-wannabe, drug-addict, loser boyfriend to marry you and go get a real job, why dontcha).

2. I don't give a sh*t about Chantalle, I just posted what I knew, from her own words.

3. My posting on the Spearmint Rhino board about marrying Holly was a joke - the guy Bubba had been crying over Holly for weeks (he's her ex-boyfriend) and I said that to piss him off. But I'm flattered that you did your research and read all my posts. Tell me something. Aren't I witty?

You are obviously the only "idiot" in this village to get so worked up about my simple post. What's YOUR problem?

As for your insults, to paraphrase the words of Rhett Butler...

"Frankly, my dear Scarlet_Begonias, I don't give a damn!"



P.S. Isn't it more fun on this Stargarden Z-Bone board now that people are actually using it? Stay tuned for more excitement. Who knows, some of this attention-getting activity might even translate into business -- despite the ridiculously LOUD MUSIC!!!

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Date: 4/23/2006 1:52pm Whois Name: Scarlet_Begonias (New)
Delete Subject: Village Idiot
AlfonsoVanWorden made a comment that I felt was so offensive and in bad taste I cannot let it go. Advertising information about a dancer’s personal life (i.e. another pregnancy)??? Who do you think you are to comment on such a thing? Not to mention it being basely and unprovoked. If you are not as obtuse as your comments you make then you would have to be either a misogynist or just a degenerate without conscience. It is already clear your opinion in favorite dancers is pretty corrupt. I wonder what Chantel did to make you such an avid supporter? Seeing as you hit all the strip clubs in town and in fact, aren't you marrying a dancer? That’s right, you wrote this to Bubba a while ago for talking a bunch of smack about your woman at The Spearment Rhino (Van Nuys). "Bubba, I wish you'd stop badmouthing my new fiancé, Holly....anything you have to say about her doesn't really affect her bottom line. And, no, you're NOT invited to our wedding this spring. Interesting. Have you ever heard of an oxymoron? There must be a village out there being deprived of its idiot.
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Date: 4/23/2006 11:35am Whois Name: Spawn (317)
Delete Subject: Mrcnote Hygene Report
Mrcnote that is downright cold! To say Denver is a beauty and when she opens her beautiful smile I quoting you correctly???

Dude, I talked to her on 2 occations last week, she couldn't of been more pleasant and fun to be with! You seem like someone she said NO to and now you are venting your !

If she did have what you say, why havn't you posted earlier???

Give us a break, go have a few , and then yourself down, count all the you didn't spend becuse you didn't like being in the same room with Denver, maybe have a or two, stand in front of mirror and watch yourself being a proud male informing us all with Hygene Report from SG. Thank You Mrcnote, we all stand up and salute YOU!
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Date: 4/19/2006 5:09pm Whois Name: Mrcnote (New)
Delete Subject: the lovely ladies of stargarden
hey you might made of the wrong turn and drove yourself right in to hell............... Denver has been there for quite a while now, and yes what a beauty she is......... until she opens that sewer mouth of hers. Next time you might want to offer her a mint maybe, her breath from her drinking is enough to make a dog throw up...... Hey as a man, just looking out for my fellow males. And if you are familar with strip clubs, then you know better than to believe you've met a princess. Once you walk through that door way man..... you are now in area that maybe you might not belong. Hoodrat can take on many faces, you just met one................
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Date: 4/18/2006 4:40pm Whois Name: senorojavier (New)
Delete Subject: the lovely ladies of stargarden
I had never been to the stargarden before even though i drive past it daily on my way to work. After an early day with some free time i decided to see what the place was all about. since it was early in the day the place was pretty empty, but the were a surprising amount of ladies working. (i think about 6 or 7) after regaining my eyesight from the bright to the dark i was surprised to find so many fine looking females. the bartender was absolutely gorgeous with short blonde hair and a very sexy mouth who engaged me in a very witty and interesting converstion. The ladies there started going on stage but i just could not pull myself away from this captivating woman. i will be returning to the stargarden not only for the beautiful dancers but mainly for the charming, beautiful and amazing bartender Denver. anyone know her what days she works?
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Date: 4/18/2006 3:29am Whois Name: guesswhos_guilty (1)
Delete Subject: SG
hey thanks for letting me know what happened to some of these dancers. chantel was a sweet girl and its to bad teri put some kindof fear in her. teri is all talk and no action, but ive seen her do this a few times a longtime ago. well karma does get back on the people who deserve it the most, and teri is going to have more than she can possibly imagine. its well deserved. so thanks again, very cool of you for the info. be cool.
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Date: 4/18/2006 2:05am Whois Name: AlfonsoVanWorden (28)
Delete Subject: Where are they now?
>>What happened to Natasha, Veronica, Ashley, Isabella, Mandy, Alex, Randy "lola", Iris, the beautiful Chase, Sonny, the shy one "Maryjane", Tana, Kitty, Chantel?<<

Natasha quit well over a year (maybe two) ago to have a baby. Isabella recently married some soldier-guy who is much younger than she is and retired. Maryjane retired a few months ago (another pregnancy? -- can't remember) and they held a big going-away-party-night for her. Iris is touring with her band. She still turns up from time to time. Veronica dances at "Pleasures" in Pasadena.

Chantel fled for her life after Scott died. She was dancing and bartending at "Pleasures" for a long time, but didn't want anybody at Stargarden to know (she fears the wrath of Terry and company). She's no longer at Pleasures. Befroe she disappeared, she had been talking about moving to N.Y. or Nashville.

Chase seems to have moved on. Don't know where, but she was in school and with a boyfriend, etc.

I either don't know or can't remember the others. You might try "Jumbo's" in Hollywood. A lot of ex-Stargarden dancers seem to pass through or end up there (Isabella was there for quite a while).


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Date: 4/12/2006 5:01pm Whois Name: NetStresed (New)
Delete Subject: Old Timer
Cartoon_Guy - I noticed you said you've been a StarGarden regular for a long time... is that like since the early 90s? I was part of a group of regulars that used to spend many a nights at the Garden, but the place changed over time and I stoped going.

I knew a regular who was an animator and your name sounded like it could be you. To give you an idea of who I am, I have long hair a beard and used to drink Zima... I was friends with both big and little Debbie, Lisa, and a bunch of others.

Were you part of that crowd? Has the Garden gone back to a fun place to hang out again?

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Date: 4/10/2006 12:46am Whois Name: Cartoon_Guy (40)
Delete Subject: Gia and the girls of Stargarden
>>why would any dancer work here?<<

As I've explained here before, Stargarden has some of the prettiest women dancing in LA, but they work there because they DON'T want to dance nude and DON'T want to do lap dances.

>>How do the dancers make money here? Dollar tips don't add up to a livable income?<<

Yes, these dancers make good money just getting stage tips. They do not make as much as the nude dancers in other clubs who do lap dances, but those nude dancers make obscenely ridiculous money and have ridiculous spending habits. A normal person can live comfortably on a lot less.

>>The dancers completely ignored me as has always been the case when I come to this club<<

No, they're not ignoring you. But since they're not hustling customers for lap dances, you have to do something to catch their eye in order to get some attention.

Try putting a $10 or a $20 on stage as a tip, and they'll probably come over to thank you and hang out. Buy them a drink and they'll stick around for a while. Keep tipping nicely and you've probably made a friend for life.

Stargarden dancers are not interested in grinding on your lap while you exhale beer breath and chatter endlessly about putting a new transmission on your Dodge truck.

But if you show up, tip generously and know how to make intelligent conversation, you'll end up with a sexy new acquaintance and some good company. And if you're not a total moron, and they're in-between boyfriends, you might even get a date (I make no guarantees, but it's been known to happen).

>>I was actually happy about the quick rotation for the reason that it meant that this phenomenal beauty named Gia would always be back on stage soon.<<

Gia is typical of many of the dancers in this club. Young, smart, beautiful, single and sexy. Gia doesn't work here as much as she used to. But she still comes in from time to time, mostly working the dayshift. Your best bet is to call first to see if she's working.

Remember, in the nude clubs the women make money by sucking up to you and making you feel special, even if you're acting like an obnoxious jerk, just so they can get that $20 lap dance.

Read my lips: It's all a scam. You're really an obnoxious jerk and they won't like you anymore when the money runs out.

But at Stargarden, you just have to behave yourself and tip generously. It will work wonders.

-Cartoon Guy
(Stargarden Regular)

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Date: 4/9/2006 5:57pm Whois Name: el_tecolote (69)
Delete Subject: Gia?????????????
Stopped by on a recent weekend afternoon for the first time in maybe a year. Not much different though I noticed the lap dance area is gone. The dancers completely ignored me as has always been the case when I come to this club - but there were only a handful there around shift change and even the guys who look like they sleep there received no attention.

All 3-4 of the dancers I saw were pretty, though none of them were gifted with anything more than a small B-Cup - though for me that is much preferred to surgical enhancement. The bartender was a hot sultry blonde wearing a ridiculously skimpy outfit showing off a somewhat thick body. Does she dance? I wondered why not given the tiny cast who had to be onstage over and over again.

I was actually happy about the quick rotation for the reason that it meant that this phenomenal beauty named Gia would always be back on stage soon. This girl looks like a movie star - awesomely angelic face. One of the prettiest dancers I have ever seen anywhere. Of course I couldn't get a word in with her because she never left the backstage area except to dance, and when she was on her way out of the club at shift's end moving fast with head down.

I have scanned this entire board. Not a word about her. Guys please tell me everything there is to tell (which of course couldn't be much in this club). Has she ever worked in another club - or maybe working in another club now where a smitten PL could actually make some verbal and physical contact?

One other question. Aside from possible shyness - wanting to break into the business in a low-key environment, why would any dancer work here much less the above average crew they usually have lined up? How do the dancers make money here? Dollar tips don't add up to a livable income? Are these all college girls with loans just looking for lunch money?
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Date: 3/24/2006 12:37am Whois Name: Spawn (314)
Delete Subject: Day Shift Sound Level
AlfonsoVanWorden, all I can say is that SG is Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde syndrome!

I was there today for 2 hours from 2:30 - 4:30pm and had a great time! The music was pleasant, you could talk with any of the dancers, no SHOUTING and a constant flow of dud's!

Between Jessica, Trinity, Rider, Yoko, Maesty and Sky behind the bar, pleasant conversation and Bodacious Ta Ta's!

Since my faves work days, I highly doubt I will ever be in the evening to experience the noise level, everyone is SCREAMING ABOUT!

I wish you all the best in your quest to tone down the sound level!
Club 3.5 Dancers 4 Attitude 3 Nasty Factor 3.5

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Date: 3/21/2006 7:15pm Whois Name: AlfonsoVanWorden (25)
Delete Subject: Swingboy

For your own protection...BRING EARPLUGS!!


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Date: 3/21/2006 12:10am Whois Name: jessica1 (4)
Delete Subject: SwingBoy
Hey....Hi SwingBoy!!! What's up with you? Geeeez-how long has it been since I've seen or talked to you?? FOREVER. How did You even find me? Well, so what have you been up to? It's really good to talk to you after all this time! You should come in & see me sometime. I wonder what you been up to & how you've been. Keep in touch with me on this board so we can catch up!!!
Gotta go to sleepy now so I can get up & go to work tomorrow. I hope to talk to you soon, Bye!

- Jessica

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Date: 3/20/2006 12:04pm Whois Name: AlfonsoVanWorden (24)
Delete Subject: Killing us LOUDLY with your song
Sorry to interrupt the reunion, but...

Is anybody EVER gonna do anything about the WAY TOO LOUD music volume in this club?

I was there on Friday night (St Patrick's Day). Some chick was having her birthday party in the club. Jason was in full swing. Which means, of course, that the MUSIC WAS LOUDER THAN A SHUTTLE LAUNCH!!




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Date: 3/17/2006 8:12pm Whois Name: Spawn (313)
Delete Subject: SwingBoy
Well, Well!!! SwingBoy is alive and living!

I told Jessica were to find you, but as luck would have it, you found her! I went to see her tonight, but she already went home around 7:15pm! So I guess I will try again when she works on Saturday!

Till next time Mr. SwingBoy!

P.S. You even know some of the other dancers at the club!!!
Club 3.5 Dancers 4 Attitude 3

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Date: 3/16/2006 3:27pm Whois Name: Swingboy Z-VIP Member (1341)
Delete Subject: Jessica
Good lord, there's a name out of the distant past! Jessica, it's been far too long ~ you were asking about me (Brett) and here I am!

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Date: 3/12/2006 9:55am Whois Name: AlfonsoVanWorden (22)
Delete Subject: MUSIC TOO LOUD!!
>>Since I don't think anyone has really complained about "no dancers at Stargarden seem to want to hang out with them...," I can only assume you're responding to my post, and have jumped to some erroneous conclusions.<<

It's a complaint that turns up a lot on this board for this club. It's not just you. Check out the message from "Plebe" way down below.

But let's not obscure the other main issue we're discussing which is more important because it's killing business at Stargarden.

Management, please...


We beg you!

See the posts below!

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Date: 3/11/2006 5:03pm Whois Name: piggybank (3)
Delete Subject: CG
Thanks for your post.

Since I don't think anyone has really complained about "no dancers at Stargarden seem to want to hang out with them...," I can only assume you're responding to my post, and have jumped to some erroneous conclusions.

No one who frequents SG regularly (as I have for about 4 years,) wants to see this place try to become a lap factory. Anyone who's been there more than a few times would concur with your characterization (although, myself, not 100% so.)

I merely made some observations about a place I like and would like to see improve. One of those observations involved "customer service" if its okay to put it that way (it is a business, after all, right?) Here's another- how about fixing (or getting rid of) the pool table? I actually cut myself once taking the balls out of that tilted piece of crap.

Anyway, I'm glad there are people here who are at least interested in this club. I'll be ther tonite.


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Date: 3/11/2006 3:23am Whois Name: piggybank (2)
Delete Subject: SG music
gate- I think thats Justine you're talking about. And yes, the music is usually too loud. I think Jsin is a good DJ though. He's entertaining.

As for the selection of music, I guess I'll take nu metal over the non-stop rap you get at other clubs, even though I'm not really crazy about it. I think its what the employees like.

I think part of this club's problem is that like a social club for the employees, and customers aren't made to feel particularly welcome (except hardcore regulars.) That's a management problem. Do strip club customers want to go somewhere and spend money only to be ignored by dancers and other employees just sitting and talking to each other? I think not. This club has some hotties, and could be AWESOME if management would pick up its game a little.

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Date: 3/11/2006 12:07am Whois Name: Baron_Munchausen (118)
I completely agree with the posts below, especially Alfonso's.

The music at Stargarden is WAY TOO LOUD!

Stop! Please! You're hurting us!


Jason is as DEAF as a DEAD MONKEY. Keep him AWAY from the DJ booth.

If you don't stop blaring the music, we'll all go as DEAF as Jason!!

-The Baron

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Date: 3/10/2006 11:22pm Whois Name: the_gate (212)
Delete Subject: Yep, it is too loud.
I agree, the music, usually the BAD nu-metal type music, is sometimes blasted at an idiotic level, through a diabolical cheap sound system that hurts the ears! And I'm not even that old yet!!!!!

Despite this, good music can be heared at SG: - I once witnessed that tall dark pony-tailed night-shift gal with tattoo's & DM's that does AMAZING pole work (sorry love - can't remember the name - sorry!) work wonders to the Sex Pistols "Holidays In The Sun"! Aaahhhh!!

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Date: 3/10/2006 2:40am Whois Name: AlfonsoVanWorden (21)

The incredibly LOUD music volume at Stargarden is simply stupid, and it doesn’t help business at all.

Keep JASON in particular away from the volume knob. He's deaf as a post and has no business deejaying for people with normal hearing.

There is NO OTHER STRIP CLUB in LA that plays music as loudly as Stargarden. None. If you want to run a rock-and-roll club, then get rid of the strippers, hire a band and let ‘er rip (and kiss your profits goodbye – because NOBODY needs another stupid rock club in the Valley). But if you want to run a successful strip club, then...


Sorry, was I SHOUTING just then? Unpleasant, isn’t it?

That's my very point.

-A Concerned (and rapidly going deaf) Regular Customer

P.S. You have the best dancers in town. You really ought to HELP them make money instead of chasing their customers away with teeth-rattling music volume.

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Date: 3/10/2006 12:06am Whois Name: AlfonsoVanWorden (20)
Delete Subject: NOISE LEVEL

I am writing this as a long-time patron of your bar to complain about something that is extremely annoying to me and probably also to all of your other customers.

Simply put, your Deejays are playing the music in this club TOO DAMNED LOUD!

People come to Stargarden to drink, socialize, play pool, hang out with each other and watch the strippers. They do NOT come here to listen to the music. Stargarden is NOT a rock-and-roll bar with a live band and/or floor dancing. It is a little strip club and a neighborhood bar.

The music in this club is played at an EAR-SPLITTING volume level that results in physical pain. If you try to talk to anybody, you have to shout so loudly that your throat is RAW after about an hour or more. For a place that’s roughly the size of a shoebox, Stargarden deejays play the music at roughly FOUR TIMES the level of any other bar in the entire area – at a volume suitable only for The Coliseum.

Just take a look at the place. Stargarden is so small that the speakers are sitting RIGHT NEXT to the patrons. We don’t need the volume cranked up to MAXIMUM to hear them. We’re not deaf (although we WILL be from hanging out in here night after night). I know for a fact that at least one of your bartenders regularly wears earplugs in order to filter out the constant barrage of noise. That’s pathetic.

I just got back from Vegas a day ago. I went to one strip club called Olympic Garden. Olympic Garden is so big that you could fit FIVE or more Stargardens into it. But the music was played at HALF the volume (or even less) of the music at Stargarden. Customers in Olympic Garden were talking, laughing, communicating and having a great time. Oh, and they were also spending money, too. Lots of it. They weren’t walking around with their hands over their ears trying to prevent the music from puncturing their eardrums. When hands are placed over ears, it means that those same hands are not reaching for wallets. Think about it.

What is the logic behind playing the music so loudly that you can’t hear yourself think?

It doesn’t help the dancers. They need to socialize with customers to make their money, and the music at Stargarden is so loud that nobody can hear anybody talk. Stargarden is the only club in town where the dancers have to master the art of sign language as a job prerequisite.

It doesn’t help the customers. We don’t care about the stupid music. We come for the alcohol and the dancers. Period. Just ask us.

“Candy Man” isn’t coming in night after night to listen to Usher.

Please, please, please cut the music volume back to at least HALF of where it is now (or even less). If you want to crank it up on Friday and Saturday nights, IF (and only IF) there is a crowd, then fine. But please stop playing the music at jet-engine levels on Monday night when only two lame drunks are in the bar. (CONTINUED)

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Date: 3/7/2006 10:32am Whois Name: jessica1 (3)
Delete Subject: Spawn...
I have to say it was sooo good to see you again! I'm glad you had such a great time & i hope you come in again & bring some of our old buddies with you too! I kind of feel like there was more to talk about but you had to go so the next time u come in we will do some more catching up!!! Gotta go get ready for work... I hope that I won't be called for jury duty this week & it will just pass but u never know. Oh well what r u gonna do? I'll be talking to u soon Spawn, hope you're having a good week so far! Bye!

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Date: 3/3/2006 5:39pm Whois Name: Spawn (307)
Delete Subject: The mystery is solved for Jessica!
A few posts ago, this was the responce I got!

"Spawn, I don't know if it's all the i smoked over the years or what but for some reason I can't picture your face . I hope that doesn't offend you. I'm sure that when I see you I will know exactly who you are."

Mar. 3rd the mystery was solved and yes Ladies and Gentlemen and a few Gerbles, Jessica truly knew who Spawn was and it made for a fun, memorable reunion and a trip down mammory I mean memory lane!

Jessica! It was an absolute pleasure to see you again after all of these years! I'm sure we won't drift apart so soon!

I was pleasantly surprised to see 2 more dancers I knew from Club OZ, what a way to spend a rainy afternoon!!!!

DJ was right on, not too loud and music was just right! There were about 10 people in around 2pm, tipping and having a good time! Definitely will go many more times!
Club 3.5 Dancers 4 Attitude 3 Nasty Factor 3.5

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Date: 2/24/2006 5:20pm Whois Name: DenverPresident (2)
Delete Subject: Jessica and Spawn
Hi again everybody. I am so glad that spawn and Jessica have found each other again!!!

Spawn, thank you for your last post. I hope I have the pleasure of meeting you. I am actually pretty close with Jessica and usually work with her....So I'm sure she can introduce us when you come in to see her.

Puffin...REALLY!!!! Are you still doing this? I actually wouldn't mind sitting down with you. I think when you see me and realize who I am - you may also realize that I do not deserve the personal attacks. I am not Teri - although she is a close friend of mine. I have been "Denver" at Stargarden for seven years...with exception of the time that I left after Scott's passing.

On another note - I agree Jessica. This site is fun!!! I welcome anyone to come in and check the club out. My schedule is a bit erratic, but I always bartend on Sundays. Just ask for Denver!!!
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Date: 2/24/2006 12:51pm Whois Name: Spawn (306)
Delete Subject: Puffin last Rant
Hello Puffin!

It is safe to say, I don't know you from the man on the moon, I have never met Scott and I have been reading what you have to say which is your God Given Right!

Something bothers me about your post in what you say, I will quote you from your last post last paragraph: quote" So I hope enough people read it and get something out of this tragedy, a tragedy made far worse by the callousness and total lack of regard by, as Scott would say, some “real dirtbags.”unquote!

If I rememeber, your last gracious responce to me was that Scott died of a Drug Overdose! As an outsider reading your posts, isn't the real tragedy that Scott aligned himself WITH "Real Dirtbags" who gave him the drugs that he died from??? I am more than certain, Scott was not forced to take the drugs, he took them of his own free will, and by doing so, he paid dearly with his life! That is Truly a Tragedy!

By sheer accident I met a dancer(which I leave nameless) a few days ago, who knew Scott! She & Scott and many others were filming a demo music video for the band she sings in, she also confirmed that Scott died of a Drug overdose!

I worked for a club for over 10 years behind the scenes, and as you say a Great Bouncer is indeed worth his weight in Gold! Unfortunately a Bouncer who is around DRUGS, maybe Deals DRUGS or worse Takes Worthless! I'm not saying Scott was worthless, but any Bouncer that is associated with DRUGS. Unfortunately that is the bottom line! Those in our club who had anything to do with DRUGS where FIRED right there on the spot! I apologize about the Harsh reality of LIFE!

It is truly sad that your friend Scott is gone as well as my friend Wood! As I said before may they R.I.P. and at the same time it is time for YOU Puffin to keep Scott in your thoughts and heart and let this board rest!

To keep ranting and raving dose no-one justice! The highest form of Boycott is.."SILENCE" You have said what you wanted, now let it rest...

I used to live at SG, in the late 80's early 90's, Franki was the manager and all the dancers were just one big happy family. Then I came in a few years later, as you say, it just wasn't a comfortable atmostphere, so I never returned! I am sure those who have the finacial ability to spend will see the atmostphere and will come back or not. In the mean time, those Beautiful, Bodacious, Energetic Dancers can make their and their lives can continue...

Rest your soul Puffin and let Scott do the same...

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Date: 2/24/2006 6:46am Whois Name: Puffin (4)
Delete Subject: and furthermore...
This is the rest of my rant, continued from below:

Since Scott passed away, the bar has just gotten more and more unpleasant and hostile. A buddy of mine who’s African-American stopped going there recently because some patrons made some racial slurs at him, and that never would have happened before, especially if Scott was on shift, I promise you that. My friend’s a generous tipper, too, so that’s a real loss for the girls.

It’s fitting punishment that the bar should get invaded by gangbangers that scare away business since certain people spit on Scott’s grave like that. I have advised girls not to work there who have asked me about it. I send them to other clubs that know how to treat their employees. There’s no bigger turn-on than a happy stripper. Hopefully the management will get a clue, but I doubt it.

I don’t care what kind of joint it is, there’s no excuse for the way these people acted after Scott died. There’s a lot of postings about the quality of the girls on this site, and that’s fine, but a good bouncer is worth his weight in gold. So is a genuinely responsible manager. I was already getting sick of the joint, but after Scott died and they acted like that, that was the last straw. Until they make some moves to show some respect for the dead and contact Scott’s mom, I’m boycotting the dump, and I encourage everyone to do the same.

The majority of this site is devoted to writing about this or that dancer and that’s all very well and good, I’ve got no problem with that. Well, this isn’t that kind of review, but then again it takes more than hot girls who give it up in the lap dance booth to make a strip club great. I oughtta know - I‘ve dated some strippers, and my wife is a former stripper. The people behind the scenes need to do their share too - the girls, after all, are their bread and butter. Even Scott was growing increasingly disgusted with the way he and the dancers were being treated at the SG.

So I hope enough people read it and get something out of this tragedy, a tragedy made far worse by the callousness and total lack of regard by, as Scott would say, some “real dirtbags.”

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Date: 2/23/2006 7:15pm Whois Name: Puffin (3)
Delete Subject: On A Lost Friend
This is to respond to some earlier comments about Scott.

Spawn, I 'm sorry to hear about your friend and thanks for your condolences. The report was "drug overdose."

As for Denver/President/Teri, my dear, you have only added insult to injury in your sorry attempt to silence our outrage over not over the lack of effort put towards properly mourning the dead, but the circumstances of his death, which REALLY was an outrage. I will refrain from mentioning details here. You can fill in the blanks, Teri - I mean Denver.

We have all tried to contact people at the Garden over Scott, and certain key people, certain so called "friends" have either been appallingly cruel towards Scott's mother or simply refused to be available for comment.

Why am I mentioning it on this site? To shame those of you at this crummy establishment who scattered like guilty roaches and hurled accusations and threats as your chosen manner of expressing sorrow.

And THAT is why this place gets a BAD REVIEW from me.

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Date: 2/23/2006 11:54am Whois Name: jessica1 (2)
Delete Subject: It's been too long...
Spawn, I don't know if it's all the pot i smoked over the years or what but for some reason I can't picture your face. I hope that doesn't offend you. I'm sure that when I see you I will know exactly who you are. You know It's funny, I've worked in soooooo many clubs here in the Valley & all over the world & when it's been a long time it's difficult to remember everyone's face. You, however seem to remember me quite well, even down to my favorite outfit I used to wear! So I am looking forward to finding out what happened to a lot of our friends. I saw Taylor a long time ago when she was working at Chili's & I ran into Paige in Oct. of 2002 or 03 at Cinema Secrets, obviously looking for a Halloween costume . Adolfo comes in a couple of times a month too. It was great to hear you mention Ernie & Brett whom I was very close to. Have You Seen Brett lately? He & I used talk all the time. If you have any info on him or talk to him let him know I would like to say Hi & see what's going on w/him. I reaaly miss Bruce too, do you know how he's doing? I'm sorry I keep asking question after question but I'm just really excited to know all of what's going on with everybody!!! If you can get back to me cool, if not I will see you on the 3rd..bye & thanks again!

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Date: 2/22/2006 1:02pm Whois Name: Spawn (305)
Delete Subject: More Clues for Jessica.......This is FUN!
So you need a few more clues????

6'3" 295lbs Blonde, Glasses, and when I would give you a hug I could pick you up really easy

Here is the most obvious clue, I ran the BCL website!

Your favorite outfit for the longest time (and maybe now) was the red and black plad pleated mini skirt with a white blouse, black shoes and cute little white socks...
"The Little School Girl look!"

I saw Randy, and Adolfo a while ago, when I see you I can tell you what happen to many of your co-dancers like, Precious, Vanity, Elaine, Taylor, Paige, Holly, Suzie, Candi, Crystal and many more

Thank You for the early Birthday wish, see you on the 3rd!

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Date: 2/22/2006 10:54am Whois Name: jessica1 (1)
Delete Subject: for spawn(304)
Dear Spawn(304)-

I have a feeling on who you are but I need a few more clues. That is great that u still keep in contact with some of the wonderful people who worked at BCL. I've run into a couple of people myself, it's very hard find everybody. I was talking with Adolfo who used to work there & was trying to maybe get enough people together for a BCL reunion.I thought it might be fun. I also ran into Randy the old D.J...he's still the greatest ever. I don't know if I will be able to make it to Cozy's on the first though, I have an office job at the moment that requires me to go to sleep very early. But an early HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!!!! Lets keep in touch & hopefully you can come see me at The Garden! Thanks for your speedy reply! Talk to you soon.....Bye.


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Date: 2/22/2006 12:57am Whois Name: Spawn (304)
Delete Subject: Jessica
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!

Finally an answer of where is Jessica! I will spend my Birthday having a drink with one of the nicest dancers that ever graced the Bob's Classy Lady stage!

Jessica you are also invited to my Birthday Party at Club COZY's(Blues and Jazz Bar) with a 5 piece All Girl Blues band corner of Hazeltine and Ventura Blvd. Sherman Oaks
When: March 1st Wednesday 9pm - 2am!!!!

I'll give you a hint of who I am!
I met you the first day you came to Bob's!
Was sad when you left to go home!
I was always around Ernie, Freddie, Brett!
Was at the Club 5 days out of 7!!!
Suzie was the Bartender with Elaine (Saw her last weekend).
I would come in Days or Nights!
I worked with all the Features every week!
I was close to Bob, Neil, Billie!

I'm sure you know who this is by now??!!!
I really missed you as a friend and that Jessica Smile

If you can't make it Wed. Mar. 1st see you on the 3rd!

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Date: 2/21/2006 5:59pm Whois Name: jessica1 (New)
Delete Subject: jessica's schedule
Hello to everybody out there- I didn't know I still had people from other clubs I had previously worked at that still even remembered me. It was nice to hear that, thankyou! I only work at The Garden on Sat. day shifts but as of Mar.3rd will be back working Mon-Sat. day shifts. Mon.-Thur from 2pm to 8pm, Fri. 11am-7pm, Sat 2-8pm. A lot of people might think that coming into a bar in the afternoon might be boring but I'm letting you know that we have alot of pretty & nice girls that are a lot of fun to hang with. - As for the person who made the comment about a lot of "gang bangers" coming into the club...I would'nt work at any club where I felt unsafe. Many of those "gang bangers" (who are'nt necessarily in a gang) tip well & are really nice people...if you don't happen to like it then you don't have to come in. I have been in this business for almost 15 years & would like to thank all of the people who have supported me along the way. If anyone is out there that remembers me from Bob's Clsssy Lady (when it was classy) ...yes, it's the same Jessica & I would love for you to come down to The Garden & say hi & have a drink with me & my Garden Girls...Thanks a lot & have a great day!!!


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Date: 2/21/2006 1:44pm Whois Name: DenverPresident (1)
Delete Subject: WOW.....
I am going to make my response to Puffin brief... Puffin, I am sad that you have such hostility toward Scott's friends at Stargarden. I did infact mourn him. The information that I recieved after his death was that the memorial was too be held in New York...I could not attend. Furthermore, I didn't work at Star for over a year because I couldn't emotionally deal without him. Finally, I do not feel that you or I honor him in any way by speaking of him on this web site. Whether you believe it or not - I WILL ALWAYS LOVE AND MISS SCOTT.

To Spawn and others -

Jessica tends to work day shifts. If you call the club, the bartender can give you her tentative schedule for the week.

I love the atmoshpere at Star. It reminds me of an old rock and roll bar....WITH BOOBS!!! YEAH!!! If this is what you like, I suggest checking it out. Forgive the mess at present, we are slowly beginning the process of renovating (as I've stated before).

I have encouraged the dancers that have been named on this site to sign on and correspond with all of you.

Peace and Happiness,

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Date: 2/21/2006 1:04pm Whois Name: Spawn (300)
Delete Subject: Puffin & Scott
Puffin, if I may be so bold, How did Scott Die?

My favorite bouncer named Wood (7'2" 325lbs) at The Classy Lady tragicly had his life cut short with a motorcycle accident.

May Wood & Scott R.I.P.

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Date: 2/19/2006 4:41pm Whois Name: Puffin (2)
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This posting is to serve two purposes:

First, to memorialize a former bouncer, Scott, who worked at the Garden for five years and died two years ago. Two, to show just what a lousy club this is both for the patrons and the employees. This person, “Denver/management“ (see below),whoever she/he/they may be, has a view of this bar that is absolutely alien to me, a former patron, as well as to my friends, also former patrons, as well as countless dancers, several of whom have quit because the situation there got so lousy.

Everyone knows that a strip club, like any business, is only as good as its management. The Star Garden used to be a damn good bar with a fun atmosphere filled with lively, happy dancers. Well, without naming names as to avoid being zapped off of this site, since certain management took over, the whole vibe of the place totally soured. The girls weren’t as happy and it showed. I as well as some other patrons started going to other clubs. It’s as if a cloud of doom just descended over the place.

The bar wasn’t like that at all when Scott worked there. Between him and the previous management, they maintained a real upbeat atmosphere. Scott was by far the best bouncer in Los Angeles; he really looked after those girls and broke up a lot of potential fights, especially as the gangbangers started encroaching on the place. He could very well be called the patron saint of strip clubs. In his five years as a bouncer he saved countless strippers AND patrons from certain harm, even death. I for one owe my life to him.

When his life was tragically and unnecessarily cut short, he was still a bouncer there. The girls were so broken up about it that they had tears running down their cheeks while they danced on stage. The place just wasn’t the same without him. Everybody loved that guy, he was one in a million. Those of you reading this who knew Scott know what I’m talking about.

The way the management responded to his death was utterly unconscionable. There was no wake or memorial service, and very few people from the G made any attempt to contact his mother. No flowers, nothing. They acted so damn callous it was shocking, and not much shocks me. Shantel, you are an exception to this, God bless you. Scott’s mom is very thankful to you for that and she has saved your letters.

The rest of you who claimed to love him so much are without excuse. We visited Scott’s mom recently in honor of the second anniversary of his passing and naturally, she is still destroyed over his loss. And it hasn’t helped her any that there has been zero consolation coming to her from his alleged “friends” from the Garden. That was cold-blooded. They just acted like he never existed, like they just wanted to forget the whole thing.

Since then, the bar has just gotten more and more unpleasant and hostile. A buddy of mine who’s African-American stopped going there recently because some patrons mad

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Date: 2/19/2006 1:01am Whois Name: piggybank (1)
Delete Subject: Spawn
The post to which Denver referred was deleted. It was a post by Puffin basically bashing the SG and Terri. So I guess that's where the confusion started.

Anyway, at least there's some activity on the SG board.

I went to the SG often (prolly once a weekor so) starting in '02 til late '04. It was a good place to hang out and have a few beers, and there was a surprising number of hotties working there. Lately its totally dead except Fri and Sat night maybe. I try going back once a month or so but a lot of times there are only 2 or 3 girls working, bummed cuz there's no customers.

I really hope Denver is right and this place comes back to a higher level. I had a lot of fun there and I really like the girls like Chloe, Erika et al., who've been hanging in there with this place.

- Denver and mgmt, THANX FOR POSTING! and please keep us posted on whats happenin'


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Date: 2/18/2006 1:58pm Whois Name: Puffin (1)
Delete Subject: dirtbag establishment
I was a friend of a bouncer who used to work there that died a couple of years ago. Plus, I'm frinds with some girls that used to dance there. I am warning you guys to stay away from this place. I have the inside scoop on the place and it is not the kind of place you want to be hanging out in, remodel or no remodel.

Yeah, some nice girls work there, but the gangbanger element is the clue and should tell you all about the nature of this place. It's a bad scene and I won't say more other than we really miss ya, Scott.
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Date: 2/17/2006 7:36pm Whois Name: Spawn (299)
Delete Subject: Denver and Management
Ignore the previous Post?????

You meant a few posts below!

All I simply asked was, When does Jessica work there? Does she work days or nights! She was my favorite dancer a couple of years ago at another club! I understand in your brief comments now that she is still there! But When? Don't need an exact time just Days or Nights!

I was a regular in the days of when Franki was managing the club(1990-1992)and spent alot of $, then a couple of years later I came in one evening after the first remodel new owner, the DJ was a complete & udder Joke, left after 20 minutes! Then I tried again 2001, now the DJ was awesome, but the lowlife element just didn't want me to take out to tip!

Now you say it is under remodel again and you say Jessica is still there, so I will try again when I know Jessica is there! She knew me well back in those days and was a 100% sweetheart, beautiful smile and a genuine person.

Good Luck on the Remodel!!

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Date: 2/17/2006 4:33am Whois Name: DenverPresident (New)
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I would like to respond to to the last post about Stargarden. I have worked at Stargarden for seven years. I now dance, bartend, and supervise at the club. I have no idea who would write such terrible things about Teri.

Teri wants nothing but good things for all employees, independent contractors, and staff members. Please feel free to ignore the previous post and ask me whatever you please....

Anyway, on another note. The club is under renovation. We are still open, but we want to make the club a better place for our clientele. We have recently hired a lot of new entertainers...HOT, HOT, HOT. I would also like to say that our super hotties Jessica, Ericka, Teri, and I are still there.

Please feel free to contact me and ask any questions about the club, our schedule, or any of our HOT NEW AND FAVORITE dancers....

Denver and Management

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Date: 1/25/2006 2:40pm Whois Name: Spawn (296)
Delete Subject: Jessica
Does Jessica still work at the club during the day? Black hair bodacious Ta Ta's and a drop dead Gorgeous face and smile?

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Date: 7/14/2005 12:02pm Whois Name: WetWillie (New)
Delete Subject: Hostile pit
Ignoring the lowlifes navigating the sidewalk outside, I parked on the street and went in. there were two customers there already and at least three 'dancers' but no dancing was going on. There was a DJ and a couple of bouncers. One dancer was playing a computer game at the bar.

Everyone seemed to be just going through the motions.

I sat at the bar, and ordered a drink. Not a hint of 'welcome' from the barternder-ess.

Now, i'm a big boy, and I can take rejection -- chubby middle aged guys get used to it. But this was just unpleasant. Halfway through sipping my drink, the DJ managed to get a dancer to go on stage. She had some tats and two-tone blonde & black hair. Actually dianced quite sensuaously and took her top off. But one quick dance & off. I had to grab her later to give her a tip. Next up, a bored-looking lass who 'phoned it in' and didn't take anything off.

Who would like this place? It's hard to imagine. A lot of gangbanger-looking types are lurking around outside -- not that there's anything wrong with that.

But it's not for me.
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Date: 4/1/2005 11:16pm From: Whois  the_gate (136)
Delete Subject: Remodel?? jaytee

They re-modeled? I was there 2 - 3 weeks ago, & it looked like usual, meaning it looked like a delipated version of the 2000 re-model!

However, there has been a surprising high quality-level of babes here lately! I live / work nearby & bring umm "clients" here for drinks now & again (who are always sceptical as I lead them in - partly the shopping carts outside, more so the disconcerting huge pile of "Rock City News" * free papers as you walk in!). Anyway, lately, the hottie level is WAY up there at this club, for some reason! Woo hoo!!!

* fyi, "Rock City News" was a publication that was pretty much rendered obsolete come 1994 by the majority of it's So Cal readers, yet somehow to this day enjoys a healthy readership in the 2.5 sq mile radius of Van Nuys / North Hollywood!

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Date: 3/31/2005 2:56pm From: Whois  jaytee (167)
Delete Subject: remodel
I walked out of a boring afternoon at SRVN, and ended up at the remodeled Star Garden at 3 in the afternoon Wednesday. The babes were a lot better and the place wqas happening. They now have three televisions on to different stations. The laps - which rarely exist - are now in the same room. Every dancer was friendly, even if they don't know you. Come by and thank for a tip. Low prices. HOPE, a babe I used to know years ago at Cheetahs was there, and gave me hugs and kisses, which raised my profile significtantly. The dancers only danced to one long song apiece, and made around $20 per song. Everyone was having fun. I didn't have a private dance, but neither did anyone else. First class babes. Cheap beer. More fun than SRVN with angry dancers sulking in corners.
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Date: 6/24/2004 4:54pm From: Whois  FAHQRudy (New)
Delete Subject: Not so bad...
I've been to this place a couple of times and I have some positive things to say about it. For starters, this is not a whored-up heavy-hitting feel-around club. Instead, its really a very reasonably priced neighborhood bar with topless chicks. Are they all hot? No. Are they all attractive? Sure. Do they appreciate their tips? You bet they do.
Don't go to this place if you're expecting star treatment. Instead, go here if you want a few beers and some pleasant company. All the girls here will happily sit and chat for a while since it's never too crowded and lap dances aren't the big seller here. They azre hip to what their scene is, and they're really cool about it.
Lap dancing is NOT THE THING TO DO HERE. They keep their clothes on and there is no touching. So save the $20 before you get pissed off. Just sit back and enjoy yourself without blowing a C-Note every hour.
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Date: 6/22/2004 6:59pm From: Whois  MarkTheMightyMan (2)
Delete Subject: Stinky Club!!
This place is so utterly small!! I was so dissapointed. Friends and I drove over an hour to go check it out since we had heard such good things about it, and it totally sucked. It was so small that I felt like I was godzilla from some cheesy B movie, thundering over the city of tokyo. I was accidently knocking things over just turning around. There was no air conditioning!! We went there in the early evening hours when it still hadnt cooled off yet and they had a large fan set up on the far side of the stage for the dances to stand by when they got dressed again. I could not believe that they would have no air conditioning. The lap dance room was 'sheeted off' not curtained, but 'sheeted' with what looked like a large see through bed sheet. And was tiny as all get out. Camras watch you the whole time so there is no touching for any men whatsoever. The dancers were alright I saw a few nice bodies.. but there were also many cracked out looking string beans that I feared would break themselves in two if they worked that pole at all. Probably would have, though of course they didnt know how to work the pole or do pole tricks so I could breathe a sigh of relief. I give a 2 on a scale of 1-10 for stage performance. Only because of a belly dancer I really liked. And I give a -5 for club style and the way it looked. Nasty factor gets a 0. Yucks. Im going back to Pleasures, at least the sexy belly dancer is there too.

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Date: 5/26/2004 11:40pm From: Whois  Spawn (179)
Delete Subject: Old School or Those were the Days
You forgot the Queen Bee..."Buffy" A.K.A. Julie K. Smith or did she go by Jody also?. 4 nights a week I was there handing my Thank You's to Buffy, Natasha, Stephanie, Wendy and Valarie. Franky was cool! The place ROCKED! Hell Yeah I'd show up!

Same question as below...When does Jessica work? I know it's mostly days, I'm a huge fan and old friend of hers from the Club BCL days. Always my fave.
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Date: 5/15/2004 4:30pm From: Whois  bbwolf (New)
Delete Subject: Old School
If you went to Stargarden back in the day when girls like Jody, Stephani, Wendy and Natasha were there, how would you like to see a one night reunion get together with all the girls you loved? Right now it is only in the begining stages. If you would show up for this we need to let the new owner it is worth it. Frank and Danny are helping along with Jody to see if we can pull this off. I'm not looking to make one cent on this, I just want to see my girls again! Post your support here so we can show it will work. Thanks!


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Date: 2/20/2004 4:51pm From: Whois  Plebe (64)
Delete Subject: What's the deal here?
I've stopped in here for a couple of beers with eye candy 4-5 times in the last year and they always have extremely hot dancers. However, not one of them has ever looked in my direction or said a word to me if they weren't onstage. Is attention to customers by the dancers strictly reserved for the regular fuckos who come in all the the dudes who interrupt their pool game to toss a wad on bills onstage even though they aren't even watching the show?

The other complaint I have with this club are the one song stage sets. I wish they'd give the girls a chance to display some tease and personality during a first song before they get down to flashing for cash.

Otherwise, great talent, music, and lighting. A good stop on a caravan through the Valley.
Club 2 Dancers 3.5 Attitude 1

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Date: 2/18/2004 2:20pm From: Whois  tommytrojan3 (17)
Delete Subject: jessica
when does dancer Jessica work? how much are the dances here?

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Date: 1/26/2004 1:39am From: Whois  HungerArtist (1)
Delete Subject: Kelly
Hi. Does anyone know what happened to a dancer named Kelly who worked there this summer? I liked her alot and was wondering if she's still dancing somewhere.

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Date: 1/17/2004 12:30pm From: Whois  luckyxxx (1)
Delete Subject: very hot girls
I went there last night with some of my buddies -- these girls are the best looking girls in the valley -- not an ugly one in the bunch -- although, they don't circulate too much -- but, if you talk to them -- most are friendly -- stand out lookers are Chantel, Ariel and Erika -- these girls are the bomb. Got a dance from a chick I don't know her name it was okay --
Club 2 Dancers 4 Attitude 3.5 Nasty Factor 1.5

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Date: 12/27/2003 10:32pm From: Whois  Swingboy (868)
Delete Subject: GENXXX
If you have so much trouble adjusting to changes that occurred with the former BCL, then perhaps it is you who need to find a hobby. As someone who was a regular at BCL from the inception of the club, I can tell you that the club's downhill slide began before the new ownership. The managers on dayshift at the club might as well have worn felt fedoras and carried walking sticks as they emerged from their Cadillac Sevilles, if you know what I'm saying. You can't blame the club's changes on new ownership, but rather on old ownership and its willingness to turn the blindest of eyes to whatever made it a buck after its business went down in the face of competition from DVNH, the old IS, and SRVN. However, you, GENXXX, have taken several opportunities to denigrate CLO in places where it is inappropriate to do so, such as here on the Stargarden board and on the VIP board.

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Date: 12/24/2003 6:36am From: Whois  Swingboy (862)
Delete Subject: Stephzu
Stargarden is a relatively clean club, as are VIP Showgirls, Frisky Kitty, and Classy Lady at Roscoe & Sepulveda. I realize this information is being posted ten months after your post, and your husband and his friends probably already came and went in their search for fun, but since GENXXX took it upon himself to reply this late, I figured I'd throw my two cents in, too.

Since GENXXX did decide to post his reply to your February 4, 2003 post ten months later, and included a swipe at another Valley area club in his post, he revealed that he is not, in fact, just a shill for VIP. He is a shill for VIP and for some reason, has an axe to grind with a particular other Valley area club.

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Date: 10/3/2003 12:59am From: Whois  louis (905)
Delete Subject: UpDated Information On The Lap Dance Ordinance/What we can do
Go Here:

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Date: 9/5/2003 5:26pm From: Whois  jaytee (110)
Delete Subject: new deal
Star Gardens has new management and it's a whole new deal. Debbie, a tall, beautiful brunette with huge, natural boobs explained that the new owners charge the dancers to work there, and bring in as many girls as possible, because that's how they make their money. She left and took a lot of her regulars with her and went to Jumbo's in Hollywood.

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