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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 13:06:25
From: Scott Harrison <HarrisonSC@worldnet.att.net>
Great website providing a very valuable service! I'm sure it's difficult
work, and I'm glad you're doing it.
How about a chart listing all the clubs with their four category ratings.
This would make it easier to compare clubs and quickly find the clubs that
offer what one is looking for, (all hot linked to each club's review).
This is a very good idea. There is absolutely nothing stopping
me from implementing this on my web site... except for laziness. What I should
do is keep my reviews in a large database and generate the HTML pages
automatically when I change the ratings. In that way, all the areas where
the ratings are located would be updated properly. Also a search engine for
readers to use to find all clubs with a particular set of ratings would be
implemented on my site.
Then I woke up and I was sitting in front of a CP/M Z-80 computer running
at 2 MHz.
Then I woke up AGAIN from my nightmare only to realize my real life is not
all that much better than my nightmare.
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 02:44:04
Subject: Sehr fantastisch!
Hey, sorry about the somewhat pretentious greeting, but I have to give you
credit for probably being the most candid reviewers of strippers on the web.
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:50:58
Subject: Body Shop Amateur Contest
It may be that the Body Shop
won't live up to your recent predictions, but the amateur night is still
something to see. It started about 11 or so, and I saw an hour of it (10
dancers). I have no idea how many more contestants there were, but they clearly
were not finished when I had to leave.
The reason you should check this event out is that there were a couple of
incredibly beautiful girls dancing, including 1 definite 10, a 9 and a couple
of other serious cuties. (I am not prone to exaggerating these numbers. For
your reference, while I agree with you that the
GC has the best-looking
girls in LA, I would reserve 9s for the 2-3 best looking girls I've seen
at GC over the last year and I've never seen what I would call a 10 there.).
The DJ announced each of the girls' industry credits before they went on
stage, and about half of them had or claimed to have had spreads in various
magazines (Hustler, Players, etc.)
and a few have purportedly appeared in more upscale venues (the Spice Channel,
Playboy's Book of Lingerie, and in
one case,a cheesecake role in an R-rated film starring Ice Cube). I know
that these claims should not be taken at face value, but in at least two
of the cases, I believe it because, as I've said, some of these women were
The dark-haired girl with the film credit was the one to whom I'd give a
10. I didn't catch her name. Tall, perfectly shaped and proportioned, and
a kind of radiant grace that clobbered me. She had a number of friends in
the audience who hooted encouragement, but the hooting was contagious - others
in the audience joined in and I was not the only guy in the club sporting
an involuntary look of giddy astonishment.
A blonde named Brook was the one who claimed the Playboy's Book of Lingerie
credit, and if she was lying, she certainly was cute enough for it to be
true. Amazing skin.
When you offer $600 for first place, it's amazing what can happen.
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 22:03:56
Subject: Tropical Lei
I visited TL early
August. What a dump!!! Tiny stage, bad lighting, terrible seating, laps o.k.
The club reeked of B.O. I couldn't tell if it was from the clientele or the
women. Had much better laps at
DejaVu N.H. plus club is
much classier. Keep up the good work. Great page.
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 16:20:19
Subject: <before busts>
Just spent a couple of weeks in LA and did your top 5 list among other things.
Yes, Deja Vu got busted
but for those of us who were there just before it was great. The combination
of dancer looks and nasty factor beats the others.
Tropical Lei was
nasty but lacked in the looks category (which they made up for in darkness).
All in all your list kept me busy evaluating quality experiences and out
of a lot of kennels in the LA area.
Unfortunately, TL also just got busted, again (8/9). This time, they might
be closed for a while. Keep an eye out for more gossip on Deja Vu on
ASSC and in my gossip section,
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 19:08:17
Subject: Bisexual clubs!
Hi, Post this if you want. We're (my wife and I) a San Diego couple looking
for a club in the LA area that has a Bi-sexual leaning, and mostly on the
female side of things. My wife wants to meet a girl for some mutual (threesome)
fun and games, and we're having a tough time finding a place to go that would
increase our chances of meeting someone. Since there are clubs that cater
to just about everything, is there one for us?
K & D
Let me know if you find out any good info. You might checkout the
Pussycat Club (see
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 17:49:37
Subject: ab2579 writeup in Rants and Raves
I am active in the legislative process in Sacramento. I think you misunderstand
the assistance given to our cause by those who do not vote. that may be the
best they can do. in both committee and on the senate floor, a bill passes
only if it gets a majority of the votes for the entire committee. To pass
the Senate, 21 positive votes are required. For example, a bill loses if
the vote is 20 for; zero against. In a 15 member committee, 8 yes votes are
needed to pass a bill.
Thus, a failure of a senator to vote is a way to defeat a bill without actually
appearing to support "pornography". instead of chastising the absentees,
we should be praising them. in several cases, i am quite close to the senators
and know that they are opposed to AB2579. voting no by not voting is the
best we can expect when they are subject to re-election and a hit piece that
says they voted for "pornography" if they openly voted no on the bill.
i am in a similar position as a person active in the political process. my
employer would summarily fire me if my name was ever publicly associated
with opposition to AB2579. that doesn't mean that i can't find other ways
to oppose it.
every card, letter, phone call, or e-mail that opponents can muster should
be sent by August 31 to State Senators. on that date, the legislature is
required to go home by the State Constitution. after that, the Governor has
30 days to sign all legislation enacted by the Legislature. Governor Wilson,
who is proud of putting adult businesses out of business as Mayor of San
Diego, is certain to sign the bill. If the bill is to be stopped, it must
be stopped in the State Senate, which is controlled by the Democrats. The
Republican dominated Assembly has already passed the bill.
certainly, you are correct in naming as our friends those that vote no, and
the opponents of free speech and individual liberties are those who vote
yes on the bill. but in the California legislature, i think an abstention
is almost as good as a "no."
I see said the lap man. You aren't Pete Wilson, are you?
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:43:12
Sometimes I feel like the "odd-man-out" when it comes to the subject of exotic
dancing. Odd because I seem to be the only man who just likes to see beautiful
women take off their clothes; not "finger their p**p shoots". I thought those
were called "peep-shows" anyway................
Well, I dropped in on the Mermaid
the other night and was very impressed. The dancers were attractive and NOT
overly nasty. The club is simply in a first rate building and in a great
area. My only complaint is that I can't order a real drink and look at someone
in the buff..... very odd to me that I can't be an adult in this "free country".
My only other complaint is that I arrived too early as a woman named "Devin"
was applying and will start this Friday - I have never seen a better looking
Asian woman in my life...anywhere!
Oh well, I feel better now....Your page is awesome ! Keep up the good work
and remember those of us who like it "clean but HOT"
Don't worry. There are many like you. Frankly, I've gotten burned out on
nasty stuff and prefer the kindler, gentler stuff.
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:24:40
Subject: Out of Town Clubs
Dallas has several classy, full bar, topless "Gentlemen's Clubs", but now
it has an innovative twist. The Nude BYOB club. By not serving alcohol, just
setups, they can allow full nude performances. In particular, The Clubhouse,
just off the Northwest Hiway, is a great place to spend an evening. Pick
up a bottle of your favorite spirit or bring in a six pack. The dancers perform
at your table (too bad, no laps, but lots of close ups). Additionally, they
have a stage at just the right height so that as you walk up to tip a dancer,
guess where one's nose goes...).
Another mecca of topless and nude bars. However, the top clubs are pricy
and the girls a bit snooty. Try the Pink Poodle, a bit north of town. Full
nude and full bar, plus for $25. hour, a velvet lined private room. No serious
contact, but considerable mild touching...foot massages etc. Better than
the classic Gold Club for my money, especially if Jennifer is there.
It has to be Rachel's in Casselbury. The best combination of nude-full bar-good
food-gorgeous dancers-$5.00 table dances and safety, although not-very-nasty
table dances. Time passes very quickly and not very expensively at Rachels.
Many times I stop in for a drink after dinner and before I realize it it's
2:00 am....my vote for best in the U.S. Rachel's also features a tough, lady
manager who really run's the show well.
For my money, I'd rather drive to Tampa from Orlando.
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:04:03
Subject: Hope you are well
Hope you have not died. Other than a few posting in
ASSC, you have vanished. Hope things
are going well. You still have one of the better WWW pages
Although I have had similar accusations from girls, as far as I know, I am
still alive. Thanks for your concern.
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 23:45:57
Subject: Thanks for the excellent info.
I found your web page some time ago and I have to tell you that I have referred
to it often. I thank you for such an excellent review of the clubs.
I have been to clubs all up and down the coast in Southern California. From
Dream Girls in S.D. to L.A. clubs like
and Deja Vu in N. Hollywood,
and your reviews are always right on the mark.
The main reason that I am e-mailing you is that just for kicks I agreed to
accompany one of my friends to Bob's
Classy Lady over the weekend and got turned off before I even made it
in. Two of the most RUDE bouncers greeted our group at the turnstile. We
were ready to drop some serious cash but could not believe that they would
charge a lady their usual cover of $15.
There were a total of five people in our group, four of us were men willing
to pay the cover but they were so concerned with charging the beautiful lady
that was with us, that we decided to go elsewhere. If the management of this
club had any brains or business sense, they would have met our groups deal
of four paying customers (men @ $15 x 4 = $60). Instead they lost all $60
plus the unknown amount that we ended up spending down the street at Deja
Vu. The beautiful lady that was with us would have probably enhanced the
inside of this club even with all of her clothes on, yet they were to blind
to see that.
Once again, thank you for the great advice and keep up the awesome work.
I can understand your point of view. However, you have to understand that
the reason for the turnstile is to keep the workers there from letting people
in for free. You are right that their policy should be changed regarding
females but that's not up to the cashier who doesn't have the power to make
that kind of a decision.
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:35:13
Subject: Star Garden Review
I was just browsing through your reviews of different clubs in the LA area
when I came across your review of
Come on..it really isn't that bad. You must have been in on an off night.
As a four year employee of the club, I will say that it's had it's share
of ups and downs,but overall the club has maintained a decent reputation.
I realize that you write your reviews to cater to the patron, not other dancers,
but I think that you came down a little too hard on your review.
Star Garden is on of the few remaining topless clubs in the valley. Unfortunately
the dime a dance nude clubs have been growing like weeds and the valley is
now saturated with getting more for less. For someone like myself who doesn't
mind dancing, but feels as though complete nudity and tabledancing would
compromise my morals, there aren't many places left to work. I feel as though
out of all the topless clubs left Star Garden is by far the best, and believe
me I've worked at most of them at one time or another.
Most of the women at the club are very attractive and are skilled at
entertaining.. not grinding on a man until****. That's fine for people who
enjoy that kind of entertainment, but there are still men left in this world
who enjoy leaving a little left to the imagination. I hope that you will
come in and re-review the club...and feel free to stop by when I'm working.
OK. I will take your challenge and visit again. See you there.
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:41:01
Subject: Great stuff.
Hey buddy, great web page I love cruising the strip joints. Me and my friends
go all the time. But it's very rare that I get a great lap dance due to the
fact that I'm in a wheelchair and you know it's HARD for them to really do
it LOL. Actually the best one I had was in
Ecstasy by Candy, man she
really climbed hehe. I was wondering maybe if you could add to the reviews
the ACCOMODATIONS (sic) made by the strippers in each club, for people like
me LOL. Of course you'd have to ask them, hey keep up the good work see you
in HEAVEN or HELL, hehe.
I think I'd rather see you in a strip club.
Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 19:04:51
From: Vladimir Tomberg <email@example.com>
Thank for the interesting information on your sheets. I Vladimir Tomberg
from Tallinn, Estonia. I present interests of firms, which sell from Estony
Streaptise (sic)Dancers. Me interests, where it is possible to receive E-mail
address of the owners of Striptease Clubs. I shall be very grateful, if you
will answer me. My address firstname.lastname@example.org
P.S. Excuse for my bad English.
Anybody that wants to help him, please e-mail him directly.
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 14:02:51
Subject: kitty yung
I recently visited your LA nightclub website, which was thorough and impressive.
I'm hoping you're the man to help me with a question. I've heard a rumor
that adult filmstar Kitty Yung dances at a club somewhere in SoCal. I'm a
big fan of hers, and would love to go see her, if this is true. If you could
confirm it, or check into it for me, I'd be very grateful.
You're not a "follower" or stalker are you? Just kidding. Unfortunately,
I've never heard of her so I wouldn't recognize her if she was doing a lap
for me right now. You might try posting to alt.sex.movies and asking them
there. Anybody know her out there? Hello?
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 06:32:18
Subject: Following home...
I have a favorite dancer at a certain club in the valley. She's not only
been very giving, but also fun to talk to.
She was followed home by some jerkoff and things are not the same. My latest
lap wasn't half as good as it was before she was followed. Now, this pretty,
young Lady, will probably lose me as a regular because she's all worked up
about this. I don't blame her! Those of you that are regulars have to stop
She's just a regular girl. I've told you about her in previous un-publishable
EMail. If you can give me some advice on how to make her feel comfortable
with me, again, I'd appreciate it. I know her well enough from the club,
but not anywhere outside. She, understandably, doesn't trust anyone that
I guess I just want a friend back. Sure, she dove after the laps, but she
had a goal...to start a business. Something you don't see in dancers. They
just, generally, wanna support their habit.
Don't do it! Let the girls be your dream on stage, or on your lap. Don't
follow them home, You screw it up for all of us. Some of us have our favorites
and followers drive 'em out. That sucks for us.
I hope there aren't too many "followers" or "stalkers" reading my web site
but you never know. If you are a stalker reading this, please stop it. Thanks
for your cooperation. While we're at it, all rapists and murderers, stop
On the serious side, let's face it. It's just not safe anywhere anymore.
This warning can go to dancers and customers alike. Be careful out there.
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 96 18:23:03
Subject: Top 5
Try TJ's Show Girls on Beach
Blvd. in Buena Park. No alcohol, but you will catch my drift after your first
By the "Subject", I suspect that you think that
TJ's should be on the
Top 5 list. I agree that TJ's has a high
nasty factor and the price is right. However, as I have tried to explain
previously, my Top 5 list is NOT the top 5 nastiest clubs in LA. They are
the clubs that I like and the reasons are described. The reasons may NOT
have anything to do with nasty dances. Please read it carefully.
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 00:58:11
Subject: Other bars.
These are some other clubs to try in the Los Angeles County:
1. Fantasy Island,
Santa Monica, bikini only.
2. Hollywood A-go-go, North Hollywood, bikini only.
3. Thirsty's, Sepulveda - topless.
Also, try Pacer's, now called Ortiz in Tijuana, Mexico, on the 5th floor
of a parking structure...Great couch dances by American students from UC
San Diego who crosses the border to work.
Fantasy Island is
reviewed on my web page. Never been to Hollywood A-go-go or Thirsty's. Hmmm.
Ortiz in TJ sounds very interesting. Laps by UC San Diego students, eh? Maybe
it's time to expand my reviews to other countries.
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 12:37:15
Used your info to visit Bob's
Classy Ladies. Fake breasts, but great show by Ruby, nice muscles.
Sending from Microsoft's TechEd event.
Used their Exchange booth to search for your site, printed info, had a good
time. Technology's great.
Isn't technology great? Even Microsoft can help find good strip clubs.
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 12:05:42
From: Rocket Scientist <email@example.com>
Time to update your page please!!
I luv your page...
For a real waste of bandwidth visit http://www.primenet.com/~rocket
If you look at his web site, you'll get an idea of how wild and crazy this
guy is. I luv it.
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 19:15:45
Subject: Your taste and mine
I just came back from
the size of my garage...most of the women were very ordinary, roubenesque,...fat
Then went to Deja
Vu in Ontario...dead...maybe 3 guys and me...girls again look ordinary
and fat...I wouldn't want them even near my lap.
Finally went to Sahara III in city
of Industry...classy place but the girls had such a "I'm bored stiff" look
that even though some were nice looking I got turned off because I know that
a lap dance with them is going to be the same...I also notice that the DJ
cut the music short and finally what drove me out was the waitress hitting
me up for another drink every 5min...I'm not kidding.
Last night I went to the
liked it..stayed for over 3 hrs and had two lap dances...expensive but worth
it because the girls were hot and you could tell they really enjoyed working
I guess this is an indirect way of telling me that
Industrial is not as nice looking as
Bare, smaller than
Bob's, not as glitzy as
Deja Vu (N. Hollywood),
not as nasty as Tropical
Lei, better looking dancers at the
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 22:13:19
From: Agent UFO
Subject: Report from the field: Ecstasy in Orange County
Club had much nicer attitudes since last time, and since after last visit
which was made after remodeling from old Paddy Murphy days.
The girls stayed and talk for a long time, like they do at
although maybe more so. Got two couch dances. One girl gave me her personal
beeper number and the other one did full French kissing (like the old pre-AIDS
days at the Tropicana.)
Don't expect this though as the other one didn't and I imagine only if the
girl really likes the customer.
Anyway, it was a real surprise to say the least. I think everyone's attitude
there has improved since the owner opened up the ripoff non-nasty Mermaids
in Newport Beach. Maybe the girls feel less pressure, I don't know. Mermaids
is a mammoth lose by the way. Avoid at all costs.
There was also a "double trouble" consisting of four girls performing lesbian
acts on the Ecstasy stage
in mostly-nude. I initiated them into this by asking one of them to do the
double-trouble since it is an advertised feature of Ecstasy. It took her
about 15 minutes to arrange.
First she cleared it with the DJ (who sometimes says no) and then she got
a friend or two involved. Later she came over and talked about doing it.
Club is now, in my opinion, way up there, one of the best in California I've
been to. Girls look much prettier than last visit just 3 months ago...
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