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Date: Sun 12/12/1999 10:54 PM
Subject: High Pressure at De-ja-vu
Hi Zbone I am sorry to tell you about a club and it sucks. I am doing this
to kept others from having the same problems that I did. Last night I went
to Deja Vu in North Hollywood
and was attack by the girls giving out the drinks. All of them told me that
they work for tip only [NOT true] and I had to give them a tip. You pay $20
to get in for free drinks right? I am not cheep but I like to make up my
own mine when and who I give out tips to and not be order to do so. I have
been there before and had a good time with Malaya and Sharon as well as Madison
when she use to work there. But not last night. There is nothing more that
I don't like than to be pressure by someone for my money. Then I gave her
a dollar just for handing me a coke and she give's me a look you; know what
I mean that look. I think I will go else where to see my women and spend
my money. By the way you have pictures of Malaya on your site but not Sharon
a most beautiful blond very sexy and nice. You should run some pictures of
her. Well that's my two cents so please pass it on or check for yourself
Date: Thu 12/2/1999 6:06 PM
Subject: Reader review-Captain Cream's
I dig your site and refer to it frequently. My girlfriend and I like to hang
at strip clubs now and then. Last Tuesday (11-30) we decided to venture South
to Captain Cream
in Lake Forest, a club I hadn't been to for at least eight years and one
she had never been to. I was curious to see if it had changed much during
the years of my absence.
When we first arrived, about 9:30PM I was surprised at how busy the place
was and how many cute dancers were working. We didn't have a lot of seating
choices and I wanted to get the overall view for awhile so we chose a small
table near the entrance. Everything was fine, we drank and even ate a couple
of appetizers and as is the tradition there, the dancers would all come by
and give us each a peck on the cheek and a "thanks" as they collected their
tips. A lot of them were really into my girlfriend and she was loving the
We're both in our mid 30s and we always dress nicely and are always friendly.
As such, sometimes the dancers don't know what to think of us until they
see that my girlfriend is into the whole strip club experience as much as
I am (if not more!). Then they usually get friendly and will sit and talk
and relax with us. We were both really into one dancer that calls herself
Kahlua. She was an Indonesian/Dutch mix, very pretty and with a great smile.
I'm an Asian girl fanatic and this one was as cute as they come. Even though
she was in high demand, she came by and talked to us whenever she could then
later we got a couple of couch dances from her (well, my girlfriend did anyway,
I mostly watched *grin*). She was very sensual and it was a great experience.
By this point we were both glad we ventured down to South County as we felt
that the evening was fun, relaxing and sexy.
While we sat next to each other at our table my girlfriend would frequently
lean over as we talked or she would just put her head on my shoulder and
I was rubbing her back and a bit of her butt a good deal of the time. She
had a short tight dress on and it was riding up pretty good in the back every
time she leaned into me to where I know her little thong panties were showing
a couple of times. But I just petted her a little now and then and occasionally
pulled her dress down to cover her up. I never did anything overt or blatantly
sexual and she never really showed THAT much. I doubt if many, or even any
of the guys coming into the place even noticed since there wasn't any room
behind her to loiter, they were just passing by. But apparently the club
manager and the bouncer did notice. I didn't know it at the time but when
the club manager walked by me and glared at me I didn't know why or that
anything was wrong. He said nothing to me. A few moments later though the
bouncer came up and asked me to pull her dress down which I did. I asked
"why?" since she was my girlfriend and he just said we had to. So, not wanting
to cause any trouble I did and left it at that. I was never defiant but I
was simply curious about the rule since I've NEVER had anyone in any other
club ask me not to touch my own girlfriend before! It's not like we were
having sex or anything even CLOSE!
After our couch dances from Kahlua, we returned to our table I flagged down
our waitress and ordered another drink. At this point I had four glasses
of wine in about a three hour period, in addition to plenty of food, and
although I had a nice, mild little buzz going I was not drunk. I wasn't rude
to anyone. I didn't touch anyone that worked there or do anything out of
line (that I know of). All of the dancers that came by were really cool and
everything seemed fine. But after awhile without a drink I flagged down another
waitress and asked her to follow up on my first request only to have her
come back to tell me the manager had cut me off! Well, that pretty much pissed
me off since no reason was givin and NOTHING was ever said to me. Hey, I'm
reasonable and if there is some problem they have with me why didn't he have
the balls to tell me? Hell, he walked by me a couple of dozen times that
night! So, I said we're leaving but not before demanding to speak to the
He met me outside and I inquired as to his reasoning for cutting me off.
First he said it was because I was lifting my girlfriends dress up and being
"disrespectful" to the other customers. "WHAT??? Don't people come here to
see a little ass? How could anybody in this establishment possibly have been
offended by that?", I asked. So, I asked him what the real reason was? He
just kept spewing the "disrespectful" mantra at me hoping to wear me down.
Finally I asked him if it was because he considered my girlfriend's little
butt peeking out from her dress to be a threat to the business since it had
the potential to distract customers from the paid dancers? He looked at me
shocked and said, "Well, yeah".
What a jackass! We were customers too and we dropped a fair amount of change
that night and had planned to spend more. I really don't think that was the
REAL reason, there was something else but this pinhead refused to tell me.
But all that aside, the thing that REALLY steamed me was that he didn't even
have the cojones to come up to me and just ask me to stop whatever I was
doing that he didn't like or at least warn me. Nope, he just got his waitress
to do his dirty work by cutting me off while he hid in his office. What a
prick! I still don't know what I did and I'm still in a state of disbelief
that he couldn't just come out with whatever it was. This guy needs to learn
something about customer relations. Maybe he just didn't like the fact that
I was having more fun than he was!
Anyway, we will NEVER go to Captain Cream's again. We like to go to these
places to relax and have some good sexy fun but this idiot manager managed
to turn an otherwise fun night into a jerk-fest. We'll go to clubs that aren't
so threatened by us from now on.
Date: Sun 11/28/99 12:27 PM
From: [Name withheld by request]
Subject: Tara Monroe
Call me old, or old-fashioned at 35; When I lived in L.A. Tara Monroe and
Wednesday were dancers @ Century
I thought Tara was one of the nicest and hottest girls I'd seen. That was
1993. Now in 1999 I'm thinking of taking a trip to L.A. soon, and was glad
to discover Tara is dancing at
Now if I just could find Wednesday, that would be a fun diversion. I don't
have to say your site rocks! Good information, and very little b.s.
Date: Tue 11/23/1999 7:35 PM
Subject: Where's the booty?
I was surprised to hear you're an "ass man" when there have been so few black
Dancers of the Month (I think there's only been one in the last two years).
What's up wit' dat'??
Date: Fri 11/19/1999 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: SIGNS YOUR GIRLFRIED IS A DANCER
13. YOU CALL HER BY HER REAL NAME AND SHE DOESN'T TURN AROUND.
14. IF YOUR MAKING OUT TO MUSIC SHE STOPS WHEN THE SONG STOPS.
Date: Mon 10/25/1999 3:03 PM
Subject: good story
Well Z Bone I like your page but i think you dont give
in [North] Hollywood enough credit. Last Thanksgiving night I went there
with a friend. A dancer came up to me (we will leave her name out) and lets
just say i thought all she wanted was my money. Contrary to my knowledge
she wanted me to go home with her and after she gave me her number i called
her and 2 weeks later was meeting after work to go back to her place. 6 months
later i went to the club again on a tuesday night were a I met a beautiful
brunnette who after getting to know each other was kissing me in the middle
of the club. I couldnt beleive it. I had to tell her to stop so i wouldnt
get in trouble. This club is #1 in all of southern ca. If you havent been
in a while give it another shot. It may be worth the trip!!
Date: Fri 10/22/1999 9:33 AM
From: [Name withheld by request]
Subject: Is this rip-off common?
I arranged for a bachelor party for my buddy and called
Imperial Theater in Anaheim
to see if we could get some sort of deal for the 15 of us. I spoke with the
manager, Joey, and he assured me, yes, come one down, I'll set you up. I
thought he would appreciate my packing his club with over a dozen guys ready
We got there about 5 pm, and asked for Joey. He appeared and told us he would
take $1 off the admission price for us. So, for the 15 of us, we paid $135
to get in, that's $9 apiece. I didn't think anything was unusual at the time.
Now, he walked us around to a side door and let us in, telling us further
that the house has a two drink minimum, but we could buy bottomless cups
here, which would satisfy that requirement. We agreed, and paid another $120
I don't know what the usual prices for everything are, but a friend told
me the admission should've been $5 before 6:30 pm, and furthermore, there
are all kinds of coupons in local newspapers that would've gotten us in for
free. Now I'm suspicious of the drink prices, at $8 apiece. We paid cash
for everything of course, direct to the manager. And since he made us walk
around the turnstile, he's probably ripping the owners off too. We gave him
almost $300 cash before we even got to sit down. And not once did the manager
do ANYTHING to recognize that there was a bachelor party going on, unlike
so many other clubs I've been to before.
I think it's pretty clear that we got ripped off. If you think so too, please
let your site visitors know that this kind of shit is going on. I never had
anything like this happen at any other club. Personally, I will never go
to this club again.
Date: Mon 10/11/1999 12:55 AM
Subject: T.J.S THEATRE
My name is Emily and I have worked at
[TJ's] on and off for 4 and
a half years and I think you should really update your comments about this
club. Actually there are some of the best looking girls in OC at this club.
Although I think Christne and Trouble are both great chics, there are still
alot of others too you should mention. Both of those girls are from the fetish
scene and not all men like those tpyes. So it.s unfair to only mention them.
That.s telling guys that your into fetish and not other types of girls. Although
the club does look like shit, we still have lots of great dances to make
up for that. As for the bouncers that look like gang bangers, I think they
have really mellowed out over the last year. You really should update your
site. Alot of things have changed since you,ve been to T.J.s 2 years ago.
By the way Trouble doesn,t even work there anymore and hasn,t for quite some
time now. I would really like to here from you back on this matter. If and
when you do drop by the club look me up I,d love to meet you. It,s time for
an update. I here so much about this website , but have to say I was very
disappoined in the up date situation. thanks for taking the time.
Date: Fri 10/8/1999 12:48 PM
Subject: zbone! Bones to pick with you!
I went to Bob's Classy Lady
last night with my boyfriend. It was horrible!!!... You shouldnt put that
on your number 5 list! Im serious. The girls are nasty! Not pretty at all.
Place is tacky as helll. Pool tables, games,stuff animal machine? Give me
a Break! Thursday night they charged Jeff and I 25$....... Ugly Ugly Ugly!
Who makes the club? The features or the dancers? Im never going back! lol
That place was way to casual... Take my word, and take them off of your list
Date: Fri 10/8/1999 1:36 AM
Subject: First time
my name is Josh I am 20 and I went to my first nudie bar when I was 18...since
then I fell in love with nudie bars...From the hottie chix to the way their
white panties react to the blacklight:) As I said my first one was when I
turned 18 and my cousins took me to my first one somewhere in La Puente I
have no idea what it's called but there was an adult book store near it....anyway
I had to coolest time I ever had in my life...the biggest thing was for a
birthday present most of ALL the girls tied my hands behind the pole and
gave me laps one after the other in one case TWO and once!!!!
Date: Sun 10/3/1999 11:01 PM
Subject: Eros Station
Anyway, I went up to Eros Station tonight just for the hell of it. What an
operation THEY'RE running! I haven't seen any place like that. I got a show
with a girl and she told me that the owners had never been in the biz before
they opened that place. It's a really nice place, though. She gave me a tour
after the show. They have 2 dungeons, 4 "jack" rooms, an "executive" office,
and a "medical" office for fantasy stuff. Oh, they also have a jail setup
with a stockade to put the customer in, and a dog dish to feed him out of.
I have no idea how the hell they get away with doing this kind of shit there
but I'll bet they bring in a lot of money if you count the merchandise they
sell from the front of the store. I may put in an application there just
to see what REALLY goes on, if anything. They do have cameras everywhere
and the girl said that the boss does tape and review the shows.
Date: Tue 9/28/1999 7:32 AM
From: Robert X
Subject: Strip Club Rating
just recently I went again to the clubs #1 and 2 on your list, 4Play and
Fantasy Island. I must say that both must have been much better in times
when you were there. 4Play lost a lot of good dancers, has an annoying DJ,
who literally insults the customers constantly and their price has gone up
to a level which is comparable with SR and DV. That leaves a very beautiful
club with not much going on.
Fantasy Island was so dead on a Friday night at 10 with only 5 customers
and 10 below average girls, that this can not be the #2 club in LA. I understand
that you are too busy to update your info, but for somebody from out of town
your list is very misleading. I would suggest that you either change the
format and have a SC "Zagat" where customers (like me) submit reviews (can
be structured by you) and on that basis you develop a rating. Things in the
SC business change so fast and competition is so hard that it is difficult
to keep up.
The alternative would be to withdraw the rating from your site and just describe
the location and nature of the clubs. I think you would easily find enough
people to submit ratings. Problem might be to cover all clubs, since most
of the zboners have their fav clubs.
Thanks for your suggestion. Readers may now submit their reviews below my
Date: Fri 9/24/1999 2:11 PM
From: Ken [Email address withheld by request]
Subject: Spooky - By Dusty Springfield
Now, about the Dusty Springfield cover
of "Spooky." You said on your site that you were unable to find any of
her albums that featured the song. I have the CD on which it appeared. It's
called Am I The Same Girl and it's only available as an import. You
can still get it, but you would have to order it from a European distributor.
You might suggest that your readers go to www.gemm.com and do a search for
the album title. There are a few distributors -- RockHouse, All Stars, WMI
(World Music Imports) -- who can probably still get it for them. It's sure
better than buying the whole new anthology. My import only cost about $14.00.
While we're on the subject of music... I have been a fan of
Can Dance for years, so it was interesting to see that women are
dancing to "The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove." I've listened to that song, literally,
hundreds of times and the idea of a stripper dancing to it never once entered
my mind. I've got to give it to whoever came up with that stroke of creativity.
After listening to it again a few nights ago, I can't believe it I didn't
hear that in the music before.
I noticed, too, that you list NIN's
as a popular - albeit passé - dancer song. Check out "The Only
Time" on NIN's album,
Downward Spiral. I think it could be a good replacement for those
dancers who like Trent Reznor's music, but don't want to beat the dead "Closer"
Another good one is "Mouth" by the band, Bush. The pared-down version
of the song appears on their album, Razorblade Suitcase, but the dance version
(Stingray mix) is on the soundtrack for
Werewolf In Paris. I have a preference for the dark, rock stuff.
Mouth is a great song for dancers.
Date: Wed 8/18/1999 5:22 PM
Subject: poor taste or just sick?
im not sure what to think of your comments on how to get rid of a dancer
permanently. there are many sickos on the internet and how do you feel if
some sicko actually uses your advice? i am not a dancer, but i know people
who dance and i think that is very bad advice to give people. some people
can't tell the difference between a joke and reality...... i am sure you
understand that you might be giving some sickos bad ideas. i am not sure
if someone follows your advice you will feel bad or be held accountable.....
but i do know what i read was sickening and should be taken off your page.
Date: Fri 8/13/1999 3:30 PM
I have been following your site for a long time and I would like to make
a suggestion. You always have these wonder young dancers of the month. How
about adding a senior dancer of the month. I saw [Linda] at
Strippers on monday and
she was great. I understand she will be back on Saturday afternoon. If you
have the time check her out.
Date: Wed 8/4/1999 7:32 PM
From: John Polidoro
Subject: Jet Strip VIP 8-3-99
After recently moving to LA, I found your site while researching So.Cal strip
joints. I've been fortunate enough to visit strip joints while on the road
for business in cities like Seattle, Phoenix, Portand, Sacramento, Newark,
Boston and Hartford. Not real hot-beds for strippers (except Phoenix) like
I imagine I'd find in Florida, Texas and especially, I thought, So. Cal.
I was ready to be impressed here. After cruisin' your site and reading the
reader reviews and yours, I narrowed it down to
Bare Elegance and
Jet Strip. A coupon for
a VIP nite at Jet Strip for the very next nite was available, plus your good
review, so I hit it.
Before I give you my review, let me tell you about my two favorite clubs.
Rick's in Seattle is #1. Small, dark with booths that run the length of each
wall, small tables and lots of chairs, no alcohol. Two small, only slightly
elevated from the floor, stages. No stage tipping req'd, everybody gets a
show, just laps. They dance nude on stage, laps are $10 for mild, $20 if
you want mileage and peeps. Lots of girls avail. 10% ugly, 30% hot, 60% avg.
My all time favorite stripper is there: Crystal. She is unbelievable. Bourbon
Street Circus, Phoenix is #2. Pretty tame, topless stage dances, table/chair
dances $5 -$10, little contact. Mileage non-existent. But the talent, oh-my-god.
50% hot, 50% average, 0 ugly. They serve alcohol.
Hit Jet Strip at about 7pm. Few places to sit. Talent level disappointing.
Too many guys, too few girls. The layout of the lap dance area (cubicles)
makes it difficult to evaluate who gives good laps. Most stage dancing was
lame. Too bright. Couldn't get a drink. The talent was contantly hidden in
the lap area and the ugly ones were on stage or by the bar. Bouncer lookin
dudes (floaters?) carrying clipboards a bit un-nerving. After an hour of
watching, I narrowed it down to three girls. It took another twenty more
minutes before any of the three appeared again from the lap area. It was
the #1 so I went for it. Her name's Chloe, but noticed a tat on her shoulder
that says Sarah. Things improved dramatically. I thought the mileage was
good in Seattle, but Chloe gave me the best lap I've ever had. With the VIP
special $15, I was in for multiple rides. Three consecutive laps had me bursting.
But on the fourth one she started talkin and didn't really move at all, just
sat between my legs. I thought we were having a friendly "break" but that
ended up counting as a dance! Don't get me wrong, she's a cool girl and I
enjoyed our chat but..... She asked if I wanted another and I said yes, cuz
I thought we were clear that I was bummed about the last one, but it was
not even close to the level of the first three! Now I'm out $75, plus I tipped
her, for what amounted to 3 laps. That's regular rates, not a special. Out
of money and still burstin over her, I left. Final verdict: I'd go back on
another VIP nite, free admission, $1 dollar drinks, not ever sit at the stage,
find Chloe and do two dances max and move on. Hang around the VIP booths
and note which are the busiest and sample them.
Date: Wed 8/4/1999 1:19 PM
From: Don C. Tyler
I beg to differ with some of your views vis a vis the greater Los Angeles
1) Cheetah's Club: Dancers
3.5 stars unless you like em' plump.
2) Jumbo's Clown Room:
3) Crazy Girls: umm...
4) Spice Lady: It's not
really a "strip" club, now is it?!? (Although they did have Guinness.)
5) Sunset Strip: Got
Ass? Thank You, No. If they gave awards for asshole dj's this place would
We are going to check Sam's Hof
Date: Wed 7/28/1999 3:07 AM
From: Get Real
Subject: Elan asleep at the wheel?
Isn't it about time that Elan came up with the next installment of her
"Exposed: A private dancer" series?
Or is this going to take 2 years between episodes just like the James Bond
movies? I know she's doing this in 6 parts. Is she planning to spread 'em
out into two trilogies like George Lucas is doing with his Star Wars thing?
Let's see, he started in '77, and he's got 4 out of 6 done already. ;)
Date: Mon 7/19/1999 3:05 AM
Subject: A BIG fan of LACY ST.
i'm writing to let you know that i am a BIG fan of
Cabaret. i really think you should go back and check it out because it
has been 3 years since you last went. the girls are so awesome and so is
the atmosphere. trust me, when you review it the club will have 4 stars on
all the catagories. hope you can answer me and let me know when you will
be going or tell me what you think.
Date: Sun 7/18/1999 11:55 AM
From: Tom Meade
I went to the Industry
Spearmint Rhino to
see Ruby and brought a friend a date and met a friend there. 2 of the people
I brought had never been there. My date never had a lap dance before, so
I bought her one. The dancer quoted the price and added that if I gave her
more money the dance would be better. I know this hustle but in this case
was afraid if I didn't my date would have a bad first experience so I tipped
an extra 10 up front. The dance was good and she liked it very much. I got
low on funds and went to the ATM for another 100. I even borrowed my friend's
small flashlight to read how much the charges were. I was floored when not
only I was charged by my bank and the ATM but the house skimmed off 10%!!
When I was given my CHANGE OF 100 I questioned it and was told there was
a sign posted. The sign is about 4 feet above the machine in the dark. At
that point you can't ask for your money back. I left the club with 90$. We
all left after we talked with Ruby for a while. I'm not going to bring any
more people to SRI. I'm not interested in paying for a girl to lap me till
I splooge. That's what hookers are for. I'm interested in a good lap - having
a naked beauty grind and rub my lap and face - and watching good pole and
floor work for tips at the rail, and seeing featured performers who I sometimes
even know from somewhere else. Why the rant? What simple thing could have
prevented a nit picky review of the evening? PUT THE SIGN ON THE MACHINE
WHERE THE CUSTOMER CAN SEE IT.
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 06:06:19
Subject: star strip too
wasup zbone, love your web page
Star Strip Too is
the worst club ive ever been to 4 dancers on a saturday night??? they were
pretty ugly too I suggest you warn all who go on your web page its a waste
of money and time
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:52:53
Subject: Rayne speaks out
I was recently a guest on 97.1 FM Talk the Ed Powers shows. I was talking
about Curveball "99", XXX Adult Film Stars playing
softball and the proceeds benefit Self Awareness for Disabled Americans....
I mentioned the event, the cause, the players, ticket sales locations, and
sponsors.... The owner of the club [club name redacted by request] recieved
sponsor information, They had the option to become an event sponsor and chose
not to respond. Anyhow, I was talking about the event, etc.... The owner
of the the club apparently heard me on the radio .... A few days went by
and I walked into the club to goto to work and I was informed by the manager
that the owner of the club heard me on the radio and beacuse I mentioned
another club and Not his I was no longer allowed to work there anymore.....
The next day I talked to [name redacted by request], the other owner.........
I reminded him that they had the option to sponsor Curveball "99" and didn't
respond..... I didn't feel it was fair of [club redacted by request] to 86
me because I didn't give them FREE promotion..... [owner name redacted by
request] said " I know Rayne. Look, I like you. But, it's [owner name redacted
by request] deciscion. I'll have him call you." Needless to say, I never
heard from anyone.... I went to the club to get a copy of my contract, and
In a recorded conversation between myself and the manager on duty, I was
told that the club refused to give me a copy of my contract.. What it comes
down to is this.... I'm trying to help people with disabilities, I went on
the radio to promote an event which supports a good cause and I lost my job
for it.... In the contract (which you have to sign to work there) all Dancers
are considered Independant contractors and there is an "At Will" Clause which
allows the club to let you go for any reason and/or no reason at all.. Legally
The club can do what they want, but in my opinion, that doesn't make it
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 00:29:00
Subject: Jet Strip
I went to visit the Jet
Strip club on June 30th from 10 to 11:30pm. I thought it was a smaller
club than Bare Elegance but
still has a classy appearance inside. I had a $25 lap dance for the first
time there. It was a nasty dance and probably worth the price <s>.
Drinks were overpriced! However, I didn't like the restroom because it stinks
Bare Elegance still is the best nude club as far as I can tell...
Date: 28 Jun 1999 14:10:34
From: harry oei
On Saturday night, I attempted to enter
Bob's for free by mentioning
the website, but they wouldn't go for it. Therefore, I didn't go in. I left
feeling that I would have a better time at
which didn't start happening until 10pm.
This weekend I'll be visiting Toronto's bars. It'll be fun comparing and
contrasting. If I'm extremely lucky, then I may see Tiffany Towers, one of
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:02:54
Did you forget the Holiday in Santa Fe Springs? I don't think it is nearly
as good as in the 80's but is probably worth a listing just for old times
Small, full of hard looking type people and women who are 5's and 6's. Save
your time for better places!
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:29:49
From: George Jeffries
Subject: New Ordinance
I note that your website makes reference to a proposed new ordinance by the
City of Los Angeles that would place severe restrictions on nude dancing.
Up here in Sacramento, we are facing the same problems with new ordinances.
It appears that the City of Sacramento is preparing to adopt a new ordinance
that would outlaw direct tipping, ban nude dancing outright, and put a 10-foot
rule in place. (Sound familiar?) I saw a news story on a local TV station
that featured comments by local City Council members. One member said that
the new ordinance was aimed at curbing the spread of disease, and another
stated that the goal was to combat the spread of prostitution. Finally, a
council member stated that the new ordinance was not meant to shut down the
clubs. Of course, this last statement is complete nonsense, as you would
The problem is that there is no record of any prostitution arrests in any
of the nine clubs that are established here. The idea of contracting an STD
from a dancer (while she is onstage,anyway) is laughably remote. Why a successful
dancer would endager her income (which could be quite substantial)by engaging
in prostitution at a club defies logic. Furthermore, there does not appear
to be any measurable decline in property values in areas where the clubs
are located, which are primarily industrial areas. So, it appears that the
City Council up here is trying to correct a problem that does not exist.
On the flip side, the City of Citrus Heights (a suburb of Sacramento)attempted
to adopt a similar ordinance back in February, but a judge threw out the
most onerous restrictions, such as no direct tipping, 10-foot rule, etc.
It appears that the Deja Vu chain wants to open a club right on the main
traffic artery, near a large shopping mall. This is what apparently prompted
the proposed Citrus Heights ordinance. Now that this has been struck down,
it appears that they are waiting to see if the Sacramento ordinance holds
up in court, since they have been defeated twice already.
Now, from what I hear, the League of California cities is backing these new
ordinances in a big way. It was originally intended to make Los Angeles the
original target of the new restrictive ordinances, but the focus has now
shifted north to Sacramento, where the legal costs would be much cheaper
(an any defeat much less notable.). Since the City of Sacramento has always
had a difficult relationship with the clubs. In fact, one club had to win
the right to open in court. Now they will have to return to court to preserve
the status quo. I would like to issue a call to action for all club goers,
but it seems obvious that the authorities will adopt this ordinance no matter
what is said. Naturally, the clubs are preparing for a court battle, so it
seems likely that a judge will decide the fate of the clubs. However, it
does not appear that the City of Sacramento will adopt the ordinance until
mid-summer, so no legal action is likely to occur until this fall.
This is the best information that I could gather on this subject. I hope
it will be helpful.
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:54:42
From: William C. Smith III
Subject: Sahara III
Sir- I see you haven't been to
Sahara 3 in about two and
a half years. I would like to ask you to review it again soon. There have
been many changes since you were there last. It's improved 100% and deserves
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 23:59:33
Subject: not a good experience
I went to a club in stanton,cali. called '
TJ's showgirls... what a grusome
time. The guy at the door taking your money was the friendliest person at
the place !!!!
Most of the girls looked sooo wasted and toe-up even in the low light(imagine
what they must look like in normal light!!). One black chick named Toni Taylor
was especially low budget-not looking, but attitude. She seemed especially
greedy and not caring about anything but separating you from your money and
giving you as little for that as possible.It almost seemed like she just
thought she should be thrown money just for being there. On top of that,
I made the mistake of being there late enough that they turned on the lights
to let you know it was time to leave...I could not believe I put my ass on
those seats, even with jeans on! I can only think what the girls are bringing
home on their ass sitting on those seats-also, the toilets were so
disgusting-unless you like standing at a urinal full of used rubbers full
of cum-only a few inches from you!!!!!!!!!!
So if you still go there and you don't like your time spent-you can have
a better time outside because many of the
'strip-club-bar-fly-pimp-daddy-want-a-be's' could probably hook you up with
whatever kind of 'recreation' you might want.
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:16:13
Subject: imperial theater
i see alot of good clubs in youre list ,but in orange cnty,you might want
to check out imperial theater in anaheim a really classy club.
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:44:33
From: Fletch [Name and email redacted by request]
Subject: WHAT'S UP???
Z-BONE, C'MON! WHAT GOOD TO ANY OF US ARE 4 AND 5 YEAR OLD CLUB REVIEWS??
I MEAN ANYTHING WORTH DOING IS WORTH DOING RIGHT, AM I RIGHT? SNAPSHOTS OF
THE WAY THINGS WERE IN JUNE OF '95 IS ALL BUT A JOKE. I'M SURE THERE ARE
HUNDREDS OF GUYS THAT'LL GO VISIT THE CLUBS FOR YOU AND GIVE YOU THE UP TO
DATE SKINNY. WE WON'T KNOW IT WASN'T YOU THAT ACTUALLY MADE THE
VISIT....PERCEPTION IS A VERY STRONG THING. RIGHT NOW, THE PERCEPTION IS
THAT THE Z MAN IS GETTING LAZY ON US.
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:24:04
From: Ben Stiller
Subject: "How to get rid of a stripper permanently"
Your, "How to get rid of a stripper permanently", is in very, very poor taste,
when in today's world this happens all to often. Why would you encourage
someone to perform such a horrible act of murder to an innocent women?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 13:58:38
From: [redacted by request]
Subject: "how to get rid of a dancer"
You have an interesting web site, but I think this time you have gone a little
bit too far. Even with tongue firmly in cheek it is too much. In the city
where I now live a dancer was recently murdered. The killing remains unsolved.
Naturally, the media showed remarkable poor taste by playing up her occupation.
Unfortunately, murder is significantly more common for girls in this occupation
than for the general population.
Even in jest your FAQ was in poor taste. I hope you will remove it.
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:48:21
Subject: southern comfort
is a] nice club, nice dancers but forget lap dances they rip you by not telling
you a "song " is over i spent only a few minutes and got hit with 60 bucks
the girls must not get much take i left not going back
ps cameras looking right at you and the mgr or bouncer tabs your songs
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:01:22
From: Big Dog
Subject: Lacy Street Cabaret
Thought I might stop by
Cabaret] and check it out. Big mistake. There is a mostly faded away
sign that says lot parking in $2 which I didn't see when I pulled in. And
there was no lot attendant. But when I got to the door (this was before 5:00
PM) they wanted admission and the parking fee. When I protested there was
no sign, a bouncer took me aside to show it. I asked to see the manager.
He was on the phone talking to his girl friend. Suffice to say this club
has real attitude. But not the kind you want. I mentioned your column on
the Internet and the response was f__k Zbone. So obviously they don't care
about anyone. Perhaps the local homeowners will win out and close down this
club. Why not? There is nothing good about it. And the daytime dancers? You
can go to almost any club and do better and get in for free (with coupons)
and park for free too. Just a recommendation. How about flagging or a disclaimer
when a review is older than one year. A lot can happen in a year to change
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:31:37
Subject: Will Strip for Food
Saw the re-opening last night. Great local theater. Good material, genuinely
performed; these women know the characters because they are the characters.
I could see a hour HBO adaptation.
Re your review: I saw plenty of reference to drugs, alchohol and bisexuality,
though the latter only through dance and action. Personally, I found as most
important the message of female power developed from vulnerability and the
personal strength that results.
As a devote of the ecdysiast arts, the play confirmed what I've felt for
27 years-- that men worship at the alter of pussy. I know I do.
I've always found the good strippers confirm for me why I'm male, and reaffrim
my love of women. Men, without doubt, need and crave variety. My appreciation
for women on the outside, including my wife, is always raised when I drop
into a club, especially if I haven't visited for several months. It's like,
"oh, yeah... now I remember..."
In the stimulation I am reminded why I'm alive. I have always respected the
strippers' power to stimulate my mind and body, and have respected them for
that. They are life affirming. Such is message of the last act.
I cannot understand why any healthy man would dis a stripper on the job.
In all my years of club visits I've only seen two obviously obnoxious clients.
The play suggests a high percentage of us are real assholes. Most guys are
too chicken to make an obvious deal out of their rudness I'd guess.
The message of beauty in all body types is much needed today, and here it's
delivered in your face and irrefutably, much more effectively than with some
PC or feminist creedo. All girls need to get the message of attitude as a
component of true beauty.
How about Zbone sponsoring a special presentation of WSFF at a club some
night? Maybe as a fund raiser.... turn it into a media event... raise a little
awareness. Just a thought.
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:38:14
From: [name withheld by request]
Subject: Shutdown of Clubs
I believe that the city is closer to shutting down and/or restricting the
clubs than everyone might think. The city is preparing to begin shutting
down the clubs and is preparing for the challenges from them. I know that
a law firm has been retained to defend the city against all the first amendment
and other issues that will arise.
As the government continues to legislate morality and continunes to take
away our rights as citizens, the people need to speak out. I hope that your
forum will continue to be somewhat of a sounding board for our rights as
citizens to participate in a legal form of entertainment.
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:50:52
Subject: STRIP CLUBS
WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INF0 ON THESE CLUBS? IT IS TOTALY FALSE AND UNTRUE!!!
MITCHEL BROTHERS IS STILL OPEN AND ALL THE STRIP CLUBS HAVE THE SAME RULES
THAT THEY HAVE ALWAYS HAD. YOU NEED TO GET YOUR INFO RIGHT BEFORE MAKING
A WEB PAGE ABOUT IT. I AM IN THE BIZ AND IDIOTS LIKE YOU WHO WRITE THIS FALSE
STUFF ON THE NET NEED TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH 1ST BEFORE YOU START GIVING
OUR CLUBS A BAD NAME
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:23:26
From: Tom Meade
Subject: Jet Strip
I was at the Jet Strip
St. Patrick's Day party and here's how it went: I stood around smiling for
1/2 hr with girls walking by and only 1 said hello. I was in front of the
DJ booth and they walked by allot. Finally one asked if I wanted a dance
and we went for it. The dance was good so I had 2, but when I went to pay
(15$ dances were advertised for the party) the 30$, the girl asked for an
extra tip, and rolled her eyes when I only handed her 30 and walked away
without saying another word. I thought that was rude and decided to do the
exact same thing with another girl. This one was standing next to me for
at least 5 full minutes without saying hello or anything, so I started talking
with her and found out the dancers were getting the full 15 for the laps.
We did 2 laps and she did the same thing. Asked for more money and when I
gave her 30 acted a little pissed, but was more polite about it than the
1st one. The 3rd girl I got during the feature's set, so the song was longer.
I tipped her an extra 10 and she acted like it was expected. I won't be going
back there because of the dancer's attitudes. It seems they don't give a
shit about the customers. I regret dropping that 100$, and went to another
club and spent another 100 on a girl who took the time to be nice to me -
even AFTER I tipped her.
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 10:13:27
From: Dave Hetrick
Subject: fascinating stuff
Maybe the only thing better than going to a stip club is reading about them.
I'm having a boring day at work and I've been poking around your site for
a couple of hours. I particularly enjoyed the "10 signs you've spent too
much time at strip clubs." There aren't many that aren't at least a thirty-minute
drive from here(NE OHIO) so that isn't as much of a problem for me. I used
to have similar symptoms from too much drinking, always tilting the glass,
stirring everything, and at restaurants when a group of people got up from
a table, my instinct was to rush over to it.
Glad to know there's others out there like me. Sometimes it seems like the
only place I can relax is at a club. I've only got one club I go to right
now where my ATF works, I followed her from the last one but found her there
on my way home from the airport working under her real name. I feel a lot
more nervous around her now that she calls and e-mails me. Is that a common
Have you wished you could stop going to clubs? I've made it about six weeks
I'm definitely a type #3 customer, just fascinated by the whole scene, and
how everybody got there.
Well, I'd love to tell you something interesting that you never heard before,
but it seems extremely unlikely that that is possible. Keep up the good work,
and I'll probably keep going, I'm too lazy to try and meet women who aren't
strippers. Do you think I'm to cynical for a 23-year-old?
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 14:36:23
Subject: Rants and Raves
Was reading your rants and raves section and I just could not help but send
Your section on customer types, dancer types, regular pros/cons, and dancer
politics are all so accurate. You should make them a part of your FAQs. I've
been all three of the customer types. I've met all three of the dancer types.
The regular pros/cons seem to be more or less accurate. Although, while I
got in for free (including my business associates when they were with me)
I always paid for my drinks. While the dancers asked me for loans (they always
seem to be broke) I never got that from the DJs or security. Another aspect
is that when you go to another club, even if you have never been there before,
dancers recognize you from the first club (and I don't remember who they
are). And yes they give you their telephone numbers without you having to
ask them. And yes I got telephone calls from girls saying they are broke
and need money and could I come to the club and see them. The disadvantage
of course is dancer politics. I've run into all those problems you discuss.
Heck it is like being married. It is totally unreasonable. And yes they go
off to the back and show off your tip to the other girls.
Its terrible when you can't be entertained by more than one girl.:( Another
problem is that the dancers get to know you; If you're known as one who spends
"real" money when you're drunk then when you get drunk you get pounced
on--generally by the #2s.:( I've had some crazy times, but I can't remember
Most of what I write about is about my experiences with
Crazy Girls. Of the
several hundred strip clubs I have visited throughout the USA and abroad
it is my favorite. Somehow they have created a unique atmosphere that is
unlike any other club I know. I have probably spent more in this club then
the others combined. It is also the first place where I started dating a
stripper and got to know the others well--perhaps too well. It is painful
to learn about their traumatic past and even more painful to see them
self-destruct. I no longer live in LA; I left in 1995. When I accidentally
came across your web site it brought back memories--both good and bad. And
writing to you gives me a chance to vent. Unfortunately, I can't discuss
these experiences with other people because they won't understand. These
days I rarely go to strip clubs since the ones here are so amazingly tame
(even by LA standards) and I also rarely have business trips.
-- lack of sleep (get to bed at 3am and even later and get up at 7am)
-- dancer politics (almost a reason NOT to go to a strip club)
Why I am paranoid about my privacy (A long rant): Years ago I worked for
the Department of Defense and I was having my security clearance upgraded
from Secret to Top Secret. With a Top Secret security clearance there is
a very extensive background investigation that goes with it--they will find
out what you had for lunch on Feb 12 two years ago, etc. So, naturally they
found out I go to strip clubs, primarily frequent Crazy Girls, and was involved
with a girl from there. They actually investigated the place. So, not only
are there undercover vice cops but there are undercover counter espionage
agents as well. I was told they thought the girls harmless--Duh, I knew they
were not spies--but, they thought I was a security risk!
So, I go to work one day and find (1) the combinations to the safes have
been changed, (2) my business trip was cancelled, (3) I am being re-assigned
to corporate siberia, and (4) my security clearance is withdrawn. My conversation
with my Boss' Boss went like this: Boss' Boss--"Why do you go there?", Me--"Well,
it should be obvious." After that exchange he did most of the talking. Mainly
he didn't like the fact that a person of my position was setting a bad public
image. Even though I told him that what I was doing was legal, moral, and
ethical he still didn't like it. He also said I was setting a bad example
for the other staff. What!!! This is a real impossible statement coming from
this guy--He sexually harrassed our secretaries and I had to console them
and calm them down. I kept it quiet that I was involved with a dancer, but
a few people did know. They would invariablely ask me for advice about women.
Well heck, I am just about as clueless as anyone. But, I told them to treat
them with respect; it goes a long way. So, I thought I was a good influence.
He also thought I was unbalanced for going there. Boss' Boss--"It is so
completely outside the normal." Well, big deal: It is legal, ethical, and
moral--so there. I considered the whole affair to be a major insult to both
myself and my dancer friend. When I think back on this I am still appalled
at how hypercritical polite society can be. (He is sexually harassing the
secretaries. I'm going to strip clubs. But, I'm worse.) It is common for
military officers to talk about and frequent the sex establishments of Asia,
so what's the deal with strip clubs in the USA? I later had lunch with my
Boss whom said he was opposed to the treatment I was receiving but was powerless
to oppose it--"You are geting a raw deal." It was mainly in the hands of
my Boss's Boss and his Boss, whom were SO concerned about appearances. My
security clearance was withdrawn not because of security reasons but because
they did not like my extracurricular activities. After I was reassigned I
did not do a thing because I was so completely fed up with the system; I
drank a lot of coffee and played computer games. After a year and a half
of this my security clearance was finally reinstated. I quit within a month
of receiving it. Now I have a real job and a better one at that.
One time I decided to get a little bit crazy with my all time favorite dancer
in Crazy Girls. I bought a bottle of champagne and proceeded to tip her $200
in small bills on her next set. Naturally, she loved it. I also tipped the
other dancers big to, but a much smaller amount. With all the alcohol I got
even more crazy and got numerous table dancers from my favorite all time
dancer and other dancers and tipped a lot too. I was spending money like
a drunken sailor. This attracted the attention of the other customers whom
were asking, "Who is this guy? Actor, director, producer?" By this time I
was enormously drunk and spending money like crazy. I was surrounded by girls
and my all time favorite dancer couldn't even get to me because of the press
of the other girls. They abandoned all their other customers. My final tab
was well over a thousand dollars and my all time favorite dancer was furious
at me (most of the money did not go to her).
After that I still got crazy (not all the time, but enough that I became
known for it). Ran up tabs in excess of a thousand dollars. However, these
times my favorite dancer did not want to be with me. I would ask her to join
me, but she said it was too decadent for her and she did not want to be around
me when I was that way. In addition to my favorite dancer their were about
two others that I also liked to spend time with. These two also did not want
to be around me when I got this way. These three would be mad at me the following
day sometimes even throwing temper tantrums.
The dancers whom have gotten to know me said they liked being with me because
I respected them, accepted them, and did not judge them. I am told that when
I become drunk my other side takes over.
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 00:47:39
From: Holly (DOM December 1996)
Subject: The Play
I just got back from seeing "Will Strip..."
I thought it was great. One of my friends cried through most of it because
I guess too much of it was ringing true.
I thought it was accurate, and of course recognized a couple of the characters
that were being lampooned...Tony and Charlie to name names..."fuckin' bitches
fuckin' bitches fuckin' bitches...."
I think I am going to see it again next week.
I thought the characters were all very different from each other, and like
they said, they're (we're) all there for different reasons.
Raelle told me that they want to take this show on the road. I hope they
do. I think it's different and really good.
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:30:04
Subject: WILL STRIP FOR FOOD
Saw the show last night, very funny. Also informative, from the dancers point
of view. I liked it and will be going back for a 2nd show, and possible have
a dancer friend along. Thanks again and take care.
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:53:25
Subject: spearmint rhino van nuys
WOW WHAT A CLUB. I WENT TO
SRVN ON TUESDAY NIGHT
AND LET ME TELL YOU THIS IS THE BEST PLACE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE WHOLE
EXPERIENCE WAS GOOD. THE GUY AT THE DOOR WAS VERY POLITE. WHEN I WALKED IN
I WAS GREETED WITH A WELCOME BY A FLOATER AND THE BARTENDER. IVE NEVER BEEN
TO A STRIP CLUB THAT WAS SO NICELY DECORATED INSIDE. FROM THE WALLS TO THE
STAGE THIS PLACE IS KEPT IMMACULATE ALL THE TIME. I GOT OUT OF MY CHAIR TO
USE THE RESTROOM AND BY THE TIME I GOT BACK SOMEONE HAD ALREADY PUSHED MY
CHAIR BACK IN. THIS PLACE IS FIRST CLASS ALL THE WAY. THE DJ PLAYED GOOD
MUSIC AND HAD SOME REALLY FUNNY ONE LINERS. I TALKED TO QUITE A FEW OF THE
DANCERS (WHICH WERE ALL GOOD LOOKING) AND THEY TOLD ME LONG GOWNS WERE REQUIRED
WHICH I THINK IS GREAT. SHOWS CLASS. UPON WALKING OUT I HAD THREE PEOPLE
THANK ME FOR COMING. THIS PLACE IS GREAT. I CAN TAKE PEOPLE FROM WORK TO
ENTERTAIN AND KNOW THE QUALITY WILL BE THERE. ALL IN ALL FOR ONLY BEING OPEN
FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS THIS PLACE IS RUN VERY WELL. SO IF ANYONE FROM SRVN
SEE'S THIS, KUDOS TO YOU! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. THIS IS THE ONLY GENTLEMENS
CLUB I WILL BE ATTENDING IN THE FUTURE.
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:48:13
Subject: Thanks Z-Bone
I don't normally write a thank you note unless a thanks is trully warrented.
I recently traveled from Dallas to LA on buisness and had found your page
when planning my nightly entertainment. I decided on the
Spearmint Rhino in
Industry based on your recommendation. I'm use to the way Dallas clubs do
business, but thought I was prepared for LA clubs after reading your detailed
review. I entered the club at 8:00 pm and watched for about 30 minutes before
doing anything. Around 8:30 the DJ announced a 2 for 1 private dance so I
chose a girl named Sugar. I must say all the women where nice looking 8's
and up. Following your suggestion I purchased a topples lap dance for $20,
but I also bought her a drink just before she danced for me. She lead me
to a couch behind a wall on the oposite side of the club from the bar. As
we waited for the 2 for 1 to start this is when a waitress approached me
to buy Sugar a drink, which I did $9. Needless to say if I'm ever back in
town I will follow your recommendations again, Thank you for an unforgettable
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:06:55
From: Captain See
Flamingo Theatre (Anaheim)
Went there to catch Nina Hartley, January 15th. She was predictably entertaining
and did a much better dance number onstage than Ginger Lynn. However, she
had a retinue of unattractive female "friends" whom she kissed "on the lips"
and who jammed in front of the line even though they already knew her. Also,
some of her replies to the audience's (polite) questions where less courteous
than what I expected from her.
On another note, Flamingo Theatre is a total dive. It is the ONLY place I
have ever visited where the dancer girls are LESS attractive than the waitresses
Captain Creams (Lake
Forest) - Sunday
The women dancers here are extremely good-looking. The hardbodies are out
galore. I witnessed simultaneously 10 two-for-one couch dances going on at
the same time. Price of these are now $15 per dance, so wait for the two-for-one
bargain about once an hour.
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:09:59
From: Densil Lee
Subject: Your List
Why is it in your reveiw you managed to leave out all of the predominantly
Black clubs in the Los Angeles area? Did you not think that they were worth
the time and effort to rate? Or do you only like looking at non-black women?
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 05:11:55
It was great to see Gigi as your D.O.M. I worked with her at the Men's Club
and she even gave me a great lap dance on my birthday last month. I've gotten
to hear her band also and just wanted to let you know I thought you made
a great choice.
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:15:17
Subject: Poll for Professionals
Are you planning to have a poll how many professionals are accessing your
site. Kind of interesting, how many lawyers, engineers, etc. are in this
kind of hobby.
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:57:58
Subject: New Maxim Mag
I just wanted everyone to know that there's a very entertaining article in
the newest issue of Maxim Magazine, which details strip club stories and
tips. They interview strippers, bouncers, and customers. There's also a
sub-article about two guys at Scores in N.Y., and how far/fast $500 would
go. Pretty funny...
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:03:21
From: David Thick
Subject: LA Star Strip
Hi. I was looking at your reviews and wondered when you might be visiting
the Star Strip on La
Cienaga again. I was in there last week in the afternoon. There were 3 dancers
and 2 guys. One dancer was a cute brunette who said she was from Finland.
The songs lasted about 1 minute, if that. I asked about lap dances and was
told they're $30 for 2 songs before 4:00, or for 1 song after 4:00, but after
4 they're topless. I passed because of how short the songs were and because
I didn't see any dances to get an idea of their nastiness.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:31:44
From: Leota Flaten
Subject: Paris House
I think you are way off about the
Paris House. Maybe it's
been too long since you were there. I was driving along Santa Monica a few
months ago, saw it, and decided what the hell. When I walked in, a gorgeous
girl appeared and told me that it was a "private" modeling show for $60 plus
tips. Not having that much on me, I left, but returned a week later with
the cash, plus a pocketful of singles. This time, there were two other girls
besides her (one gorgeous, one not as good), but I went with the one from
before (this was afternoon, both times). She led me into a back room, reminded
me about tipping once more, and took off her tiny bikini. She showed me
everything, and although her breasts appeared much smaller without her top,
she was still beautiful. When I started making a pile of my money, she was
disappointed, and informed that most guys tip in twenties (but she was not
rude about it). After rolling around on the floor for another minute, she
started masturbating, and I was thinking what I would have got with more
money. The whole show took about 20-25 minutes.
So they must have made some improvements since you were there. The girls
were all young with awesome bodies. You should check it out.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:21:19
From: Bob <RACX@aol.com>
Subject: Tattoos and Danceland
As for the tatoos, For me they are a turn off. Some of the descrete ones
like a little rose on the breast on on the hip is ok...but I HATE the big
"decals" on the small of the back... bad taste!
Second Item. I went to the Danceland Club on Figuroa...for the second time
and I am starting to find these very intriguing! While they wont replace
the Stripclubs, they do provide a nice change of venue. The ladies are relatively
unsophisticated and for some reason I find that very refreshing. They are
not bashful about touching or being touched. You might consider reviewing
these..but then again, It is a goodthing that is not too well known except
for the latin crowd.
I am in the process of moving to Houston. The strip bars here are quite amazing.
In many ways they are much better and more classy that So Cal's...as you
likely know!. I have had almost TOTAL MILEAGE at one of them and that still
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